Google can produce many examples. As I am at work I shall not waste the time. Suffice it to say they take the passage about killing the infedel where ever you find them until they convert or submit to the will of Allah very seriously. Especially at the second half the Koran gets extremely violent. You can see at the beginning, when the goat fucker and child rapist Mohammed was weak he was more conciliatory but as he gained followers and power he became more absolutist. Sadly, Muslims believe later verses take precedence over earlier commands so the evil shit is what they are supposed to follow.
You haven't been paying attention during the last 1,300 years, have you? Well, by now most everybody knows what's in the Koran and much of what's in the Hadith. It's about slaying the infidels and spreading Islam until the entire world submits. The first bump they hit was the Eastern Roman Empire, which fought back successfully for centuries.
If you'd actually read it in any serious way, you wouldn't be taking the "kill them wherever you find them" verse out of context. It is in reference to a defensive war only, the only type of war that is legitimate according to the Koran. You'll also find that there are instructions not to attempt to convert people against their will. True, there are different interpretations of some of this stuff, and plenty of ammunition for extremists. But the simplistic one-dimensional condemnation of all Muslims as animals and the Koran as a violent screed is unbecoming of any educated person.
If you'll read the Hadith you'll see the Muhammed and the early caliphs fought a defensive war all the way from Medina to southern France.
I won't see any such thing involving Muhammed since he was long dead by that stage. His method of fighting famously - and perhaps ridiculously - required his troops not to attack first. And whatever the early caliphs did doesn't speak to what's in the Koran.
Except that they actually knew Muhammed. They had fought alongside him during his many conquests in his decade long military career of raids and attacks, all ordained by Allah, of course. The men are butchered and the women taken as slaves, along with all the booty. He explained the logic of it at length.
I thought Islam largely turned "militant" after it was imposed on the Persians. Islam largely adopting the historical Persian wariness of neighbors
Incidentally, a recent experiment showed that when people are read Biblical passages but are led to believe they are from the Koran, they view them very negatively. Of course, some of us already did, but that's because we've realised that most religions have a lotta shit in them, even if they purport to be the word of "our" God.
Oh, I completely agree thst the old Testiment shit is pretty barbaric. That said, Christians mostly ignore the old Testiment t because theologically the parts about Jesus supercedes it. That is why Christians don't keep kosher and can wear mixed fibers. Islam is a whole other level of violent barbarism though. I am glad that not all muslims follow the violence directed by their supposed holy book but that does not change the truly barbaric nature of their false religion. It will be a great day when all religious superstition is cast down in favor of rationality but until then I have to agree that Islam is more objectionable than just about any other religion on earth. At least the Christians and Buddhists or even the Hindus don't want to kill everyone else because they think God told them to.
And your complete ignorance of the subject and willingness to just make shit up are showing again. HINT: The chapters of the Qur'an are arranged by length, not chronological order. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran#Text_and_arrangement
Christianity nearly ditched the Old Testament entirely in the early days, threatening to dismiss it as a bunch of silly Jewish fairy tales unless Rabbis quit making edits. There have always been Christian groups who reject the OT because they find the values it teaches primitive and thus not in accord with God. A famous person expounding this view was Marcion, who got excommunicated in 144 AD but whose influence grew. He held that the God of Jesus was not the god of Moses.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...e-mosques-in-security-crackdown-a6757596.html France shuts down three mosques because they were preaching radicalization and support for terrorism. The truth is all three will have new digs and be back up and running with in a week. They should have arrested and deported everyone who went there.
Ok, I might as well bite. Please tell us in general why your sources on France are better than those of the French government, specifically which source tells you that these mosques will quickly reopen, and whereto France should deport the French citizens that frequented these mosques.
It's simple logic. Churches frequently burn due to bad wiring, yet how many congregations permanently disband instead of making arrangements to meet in some other building or warehouse next Sunday, and then keep meeting somewhere else until they rebuild or find a permanent new building? The mosque is just some square footage. It's the people running it and attending it that are the potential threat. France should send them back to dar-al-Islam. It doesn't matter where as long as it's a place that enforces sharia.
