Do You Believe the Investigation(s) of Donald Trump & administration has been fair and unbiased?

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   Serious question especially to those who do not like Donald Trump.
   
   Say you believe that Donald Trump is a repulsive, disgusting man guilty of predatory sexual behavior in the past. I'll concede that right off.
   
   Say you believe that Donald Trump is grossly unqualified by any reasonable measure to be president. I'll concede that right off.
   
   Say you believe that Donald Trump did plot and conspire with Russians to win the election over Hillary Clinton. Or at least his campaign and close confidants did. I don't necessarily believe it but for the sake of argument I'll concede that right off.
   
   Say you believe that Hillary Clinton if the situation was reversed would've been treated far worse than President Trump has been. Or that President Clinton was treated worse in the late 1990s. I don't necessarily believe it but for the sake of argument I'll concede that right off.
   
   Say you believe that President Trump is a massive threat to the peace and economy of the United States in particular and the world in general. I don't necessarily believe that but for the sake of argument I'll concede it.
   
   Given those factors do you believe the investigations of Donald Trump, his associates and his administration has been conducted in a fair and unbiased manner?
   
   I do not. I think indications are way too many of those involved closely in investigations have clear anti Trump biases and agendas and by no means can the current investigations be considered fair and unbiased.
   
   Opinions? Please simple honest ones and not sermons.

Yes, not only does Mueller have a sterling 40 year career with a perfect record but he has overwelming bipartisan support. Now, you have paid propaganda shills who have been paid to lie and to try to create doubt simply because they know Trump is guilty and that a whole bunch of other Republican groups and organizations are also neck deep in treason. They are desperately flailing about because they know how badly this criminality is going to damage their crappy brand.

Fix your formatting, dimbulb.

Wow. A quick scan of that message board reveals that Dayton gets his ass handed to him there about as much as he gets it handed to him here.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php

Did you expect him to grow a brain when posting elsewhere? I cannot imagine how hard it would be to keep from laughing at his insanity and to take him seriously enough to not get banned over there. I am pretty sure some of their members have probably died from aneurysm since he got there.

If you concede that Trump is an admitted criminal and traitor, then you would expect anyone who respects the law and any patriot to dislike him. That isn't bias. You don't disqualify a criminal investigator for being opposed to crime.

Well, if you are an investigator then you have your duty to undertake your role properly but within the law. If you are an investigator and believe (potentially know) the following due to access to files/data/investigations:

- Trump is a sexual harrasser
- Trump is unqualified to be president
- Trump or his cronies conspired with foreign agents to rig the election
- Trump is a massive threat to peace and the economy.

Well, if you are an investigator and if you believe those things then of course you are going to pursue him using everything you have.

In all reality investigators are only told to try and be fair and unbiased because it would be harder for a biased person to accomplish evidence gathering without violating the rules of evidence if they were not. It is best that they gather evidence in accordance with the law but being impartial is not a requirement for them. They just have to be able to present their evidence based on the rules of evidence in court, or congress for impeachment purposes. If mistakes are made then evidence may be eliminated from trial and that would make the investigation a waste. A biased investigator could abide by the rules of evidence gathering, and because the defendant will have a chance to object to any improperly obtained evidence bias is not necessarily a problem as long as the investigator does their job and does not have evidence eliminated or leave room for reasonable doubt by not following up on leads because of their bias.

Impeachment is a different story, but there politics plays an inherent role because you do not have a impartial court and jury to contend with. You have to get by congress who are anything but impartial and unbiased.

Mr kitchens is just falling for the trump talking points, but what do you expect from a person who has limited knowledge of the law and how things work because he is poorly educated.

I think that it's a storm in a teacup. It's not helped by Trump's incompetency and there may be relatively minor infringements of protocol going on, but the whole "Russians stole the election and control the White House" narrative is absurd.

Democrats would be better served presenting more opposition on substantive issues such as healthcare and the tax system. That they choose this shit instead reveals much about them.

1. No proof
2. He meets all the requirements in the Constitution
3. No proof
4. Your opinion

Even if Putin rode a seahorse across the Bering Strait and loudly proclaimed Trump was in his pocket, the base wouldn't care. They'd let Nazis into the tent if it meant beating those evil liberals.

Oh. Wait.

Can you name some of these Nazis?

Ask Heather Heyer.

The one that died from improper CPR?

Here’s what I believe, I believe @Dayton3 still doesn’t know how to use a computer.

Yes. Exactly. Just like JFK or Lincoln.

The same can be said about @Tererun.

Dayton, Anduril just effectively demonstrated why you cucks are increasingly being relegated to the dust bin of history. You assclowns can't even accept reality and so naturally assume everyone else opperates in the same delusional space. How many Bengahzi investigations did republicans launch? Yet as partisan as those investigations were the real world operates based on facts and so those investigations went no where. Now you Republican morons expect us to accept the ridiculous premise that only supporters of President Trump can credibly investigate president trump and that somehow attending a Christmas party of a neighbor who once voted for a Democrat makes one incapable of impartiality. No one is buying that bullshit. The facts of the case will prove the credibility of the investigation and no amount of hemming or hawing is going to derail it. Sad day for you bitches.

You say the real world operates on facts but continue to deny facts.

Why so angry?

Also, I may live to regret this but what is an "asclown" or "cucks"?

These are Daytons IF points from his original post, numbnuts!

Do you think Hillary Clinton was treated fairly in 2016? Hell, How about Bill Clinton in 1998? Obama for the last 8 years?

To answer your question, given the preponderance of circumstantial evidence that exist today, yes, I think he's being treated fairly. If he's innocent, he should be welcoming of an independent investigation because it's the only thing that will restore the full faith of his administration in the eyes of fair minded Americans. I totally expected Comey's investigation to exonerate him of any wrong doing up until the moment he fired him.... and went on national TV and admitted that he did so because he "wanted the Russia thing to go away."

Did you ignore the part where Comey said Trump wasn’t under investigation?

Did you ignore the part where Trump as POTUS asked him to go easy on Mike Flynn? A man who just plead guilty to lying to the FBI?

Amazing, that's just scorched earth type stuff and I only got to page 2.

@Dayton3 I almost feel bad for you. But then I think of how horrible a person you are.

Scorched earth? How? There is almost no flaming or trolling allowed there. Plus personal attacks are widely frowned upon.

No I mean you constantly, consistently and brutally get your ass handed to you, albeit in a far more polite manner than here.

There's an incredible similarity though between there and here with the sheer lack of respect people have for you and your so called intellectual prowess.

People have a habit of not respecting you intellectually if they disagree with you on issues. At any rate aside from the occasional hot button issues like abortion I get along pretty well with people there. Plenty of likes of my posts.

Annnnnnd there's the autism

Yes.

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