Nazi attack gun massacre in Pittsburgh

TR was an actual Progressive. Not one of the lying regressives that just tries to pretend that they are.

Life's too short to argue with idiots.

What are they trying to regress? Free speech and gun rights are too easy of answers and I don't want to include them in the discussion yet.

That’s some weak sauce right there.

I thought you have something better than:



Am I to assume that Trump can never ever speak about anyone in a negative way whose been a target of some sort?

Hey, don't drag me into this

It wasn't that long ago that it was pretty much unheard of for a US president to publicly abuse and ridicule people.

God, you really will make an excuse for anything won't you?

I guess Trump once again today calling the media the enemy of the people is also defensible?

we all know the feeling.

ding! ding! ding! we have a winner! As per the law in Libertopia Trump can only speak in a disparaging manner toward rich WASP males. It is decreed!

so... LA JCC was a neo nazi
Seattle event was a (presumably from his name) muslim militant.
LAX was judged to be against the US government's policies re: Palestine. Not sure if that's really an anti Jewish thing so much as geo political involving Israel...

How is this a "both sides" thing again?

I would not support that statement. It sounds too "banana republic" dictatorship....but hey, I'm not the president.

depends on which media you're speaking of there boss.

Fox literally had a guy on today that claimed the "caravan" was bringing smallpox.

Worldwide there hasn't been a documented case of smallpox in 42 years.

The host did not challenge the claim.

Let's not indulge the notion that they are "careful" about facts.

no I don't think anyone is saying he thought Trump would approve. Those dudes identify whom they think is really on their side by "signaling" which is what they think Trump, and others, do to wink-wink at them that they are right.

The more radical of that group are basically in the "what are we waiting for!?!?!?!" mindset and they think even the politicians who are on their side are too slow or sometimes "cucked" to follow through and feel like the movement needs someone to "take one for the team" and strike the match. That's what's happened with this guy (note "screw your optics, I'm going in" i.e. the matter is urgent and you fuckers are too slow). The sense in which he "hated Trump" is only in the sense that PUS hasn't started building the gas chambers yet so maybe he's not as serious as he needs to be.
BUT
given that he specifically cited the dangers of the caravan and it's ONLY the Trumpublicans pumping the atmosphere full of "OMG CARAVAN OF INVADERS!!!!!!" bullshit, we can safely conclude Trump triggered this guy, regardless of what he said about Trump's level of commitment.

Terrorism-By-Proxy

it's clear TO THEM.

If you read the anti-sematic alt-right conversations - the one's THEY have among themselves, they basically NEVER say "goddamn Jew Koch brothers!" even though they ARE Jewish.

But they DO name other high profile Jews as the ones who are ruining everything (Soros, Bloomberg, Steyer, various media types and entertainment industry people) so when you want to dog-whistle those folks, as Republicans do - you name the same people they name. This gives you plausible deniability ("Hey, I'm just down on him because he donates to liberals!") while clearly communicating to the bigots that you are singing their song.

This maneuver works well on the more gullible sort.

well of course "we can safely conclude" Trump triggered him. There can be no other possible explanation. I'm sure 100 percent of the trained & certified psychiatrists in the entire mental health & behavioral science field would agree with your expert analysis of his motivations.

ETA:
He's not wrong tho

Here's what we know, as an objective fact:
1. basically everything Trumpublicans have said about the "caravan" is made up bullshit and on a couple of occassions Trump openly admitted there's no proof of the things he says about it.

2. there's no evidence whatsoever that Bowers has done any independent investigation to determine any facts about the "caravan"

3. he SPECIFICALLY cited the caravan as the existential threat that demanded his immediate action.

By all means, professor, diagram for us your alternative hypothesis as to what underlaid his motivation

How about making racism and sexism fashionable again? There are literally "progressives" advocating for segregation as a way of creating a "safe space" from white people. They argue against egalitarianism and meritocracy, which makes them exactly the opposite of progressive. They have done everything they can to divide Americans by race and sex. And yeah, like it or not, free speech is a big part of it, too, not to mention the violence done in response to it.

Wow, Those are some flaming pants you have on there. Stay away from my sake with those until you can stop the lying.

So let me get this straight - Bowers is crazy/dumb as fuck and believes everything he hears on the news or hears Trump say, so Trump is at fault and not Bowers who actually pulled the trigger? The "son of sam" killer claimed a dog made him do it. Better tell the kids Rex has gone to a farm upstate to frolic with the other dogs!

No one is saying Bowers is not at fault, but if someone incites violence and then violence ensues...does that person not share in the responsibility?

God, you people are either flat out stupid or being intentionally obtuse.

Trump has traded on the politics of fear, hate and division. He says political violence is ok. He rails against liberal figures. Liberal figures start getting sent bombs. He rails against the press and says they are the enemy of the people. Press start getting bombs and their office shot up. He says neo-nazis are very fine people and then we have elderly Jews massacred while at prayer and hate crimes increasing by a whopping 45% last year.

How fucking dumb do you have to be to not see the obvious?

Trump's rhetoric is legitimising violence and hate...and you willingly voted for it knowing what he was all about, so damn well own it when shit like this goes down.

The time when he said "go ahead and punch him, I'll pay the legal fees" is inciting violence and he could have been sued if anything tragic had happened at that event. But unless he specifically says " attack the press." or "go ahead and attack Democrats." he's not saying anything that we haven't heard in the past from politicians towards their enemies.

Oh come on. If you promote the politics of hate, division and fear, you're contributing to social unrest. It's not just a case of literally saying "go attack someone" and if he doesn't he's not contributing. I mean, take Charlottsville. He labelled neo-nazis very fine people when a neo-nazi had just murdered a woman with his car for heaven's sake. Even his subsequent "condemnation" of it was half arsed and mealy mouthed at best. He then went on to re-tweet content from British neo-nazis. Are you honestly trying to convince me that such behaviour and rhetoric doesn't embolden those who would be more than happy to commit acts of violence in line with the hate and division being promoted?

They are going to excuse it because this is what they elected him to do. They have been threatening a culture war for a long time, and now trump gives them the victims they have craved. These are the same people who claimed PC values of the left are causing them to be the new black people. On one hand not being able to say nigger is making them the oppressed class, and on the other calling for violence and a civil war so trump can be king is just speech without consequence.

The fact is, and it is obvious, if hillary clinton put an R next to her name and started talking like trump they would bow to her as their new goddess. Fuck, these hypocritical assholes are sucking on roseanne's tits and she used to be a feminazi liberal. They used to hate that bitch back in her stand up days. Of course trump calls for violence. He has tweeted violence in the streets has to come if he loses congress or gets legally impeached or voted out. If you or I did the shit he did on twitter we would have the authorities arresting us, but not him and not his white supremacist followers.

Anti semitism has never been exclusively the purview of the Right.

so folks keep saying... but in the context of the incidents referred to, I'm not seeing much to implicate a liberal agenda.