the Jussie Smollett incident - what say you wordforge?

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  1. Zombie

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    Reports are coming in that Smollett and his lawyer were talking to the prosecutor for the state.

    Looks like a plea deal at the state level is coming.

    It looks as if it finally dawned on Smollett that he’s in deep shit and the best course is to admit and beg for as little a sentence as you can get. Especially when he has to know that Federal charges are right around the corner.
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  2. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I think someone's about to get written off of Empire. :lol:
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    On the up side, that's one less human being who is actually being harmed by bigots. On the downside, the same human being has now made it more difficult for people who have been harmed by bigots.
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    I have to say, hearing him admit it will be very gratifying, though, no doubt, it will be spun with a lot of "I was only doing it for the oppressed people in Trump's America" bullshit.
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    Yeah it's going to be everybody else's fault but his, I can already feel it
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  6. Paladin

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    I wonder if he can plea on the state charges without incriminating himself on the (presumed) federal charges.
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    That's the worst fucking part of all this. You'd think someone as "woke" as Smollet would understand that while he may be able to pay his way out of any real sentence, the rest of the queer black community is gonna get slammed. Not just by wypipo like Oldfella and Dinner, but by our own people who want an excuse to keep thinking of queerness as a white man's perversion .
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    The worst part is he would have let two innocent people go to jail for a hate crime.
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  9. oldfella1962

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    Tell me of these "smart phones." I might buy one someday.....if they ever stop making simple flip phones.
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    Me thinks black racist heterophobe is going to jail...uh huh, uh huh...
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  11. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    "You'd think someone as "woke" as Smollet would understand that while he may be able to pay his way out of any real sentence, the rest of the queer black community is gonna get slammed. Not just by wypipo like Oldfella and Dinner, but by our own people who want an excuse to keep thinking of queerness as a white man's perversion" - Shirogayne .

    Excuse me? When the fuck have I ever hated on gays? I may have told hilarious stories about a guy on my crew in the army (who happened to be gay & black) but go back and read the threads - there's no personal hate against him. Just because "your people" think gayness is a perversion don't broad brush me. Granted you are too lazy to dig up any evidence that I don't like gays or want to limit their civil rights or shut down their lifestyle or anything else negative. Damn it seems to me like you are one of the more bitter & hateful people on word forge - and that's really saying something.
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    I will say I have not seen you exhibit the same level of calling out homosexuals that you do to brown people. However, given how you seem oblivious to the prejudice around you I cannot say you would call that out, and your silence and lack of action if it happened around you would allow it to go on and be a silent form of support. In other words if someone around you was openly harassing homosexuals I think you would laugh along which encourages them and adds to the bullshit a gay person receives. I think you would probably rationalize it as good natured ribbing people sometimes do to each other, but it would not go over that way on the other side.

    That is about the best I can give you.
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    I think he wants to go to jail.
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    Fuck you. You have no idea how I would react if people around me were harassing gays or browns/blacks for that matter. But you know what? I know how I'd react which is what matters.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    okay I am totally not getting the "disorderly conduct" charge. :unsure: Can somebody explain please?
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    § 26-1.  Disorderly conduct.

    (a) A person commits disorderly conduct when he or she knowingly:

    (4) Transmits or causes to be transmitted in any manner to any peace officer, public officer or public employee a report to the effect that an offense will be committed, is being committed, or has been committed, knowing at the time of the transmission that there is no reasonable ground for believing that the offense will be committed, is being committed, or has been committed;

    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...hapterID=53&SeqStart=74200000&SeqEnd=75200000
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  19. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I use an Android phone, and since I use it for email, calling, texting, purchases, etc., pretty much how most people use their phones. If I click one "timeline" in Google maps, I can see my exact route when I use the phone a s GPS for driving. Not only that, if I'm and about, I can see where I stopped during the day. Google maps will show lines going from place to place, not the exact route, but will show how long I was at that stop. So yeah it's a little creepy, but at the same time it's now part of our lives with the tech we use.
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    The Nigerian brothers? They are much closer to co-conspirators than innocent bystanders.
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    I’m saying if nobody found out it was a hoax.
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    thanks! I've always envisioned disorderly conduct as losing your head and making a scene and getting violent and whatnot.
    side-note my stepbrother is doing time in some prison in southern Illinois right now. He has done time in Joliet and some other prisons too during his long, illustrious criminal career in Illinois.
    Maybe Jessie will end up where he's at!
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    ummm.....not seeing how two Nigerians could be convicted (or even charged) with a hate crime against another black. Well maybe from the gay hate I guess.
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    He does seem willing to let them go to jail for a crime OTOH. He has been pointing his fingers at them and seems to have tried to throw them under the bus pretending he had no part in it. They are not the brightest fish in the barrel either.

    This case does prove what I have been saying for a while. You do not have to install tracking chips in people when you can get them to carry around a GPS tracker voluntarily. I remember the right wing claiming Obama was going to chip us all, but it never made any sense when by that time all the people who feared him doing this were carrying around phones everywhere.
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  25. Shirogayne

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    NO...he's talking about if police didn't put anything together, the white suspect they might've found hypothetically would've rotted in jail. Like the primary suspect they had for the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping who was not only entirely innocent but didn't even know the lunatic who did snatch her up.
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    RAMEN, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!
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  28. Quincunx

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    Yes, let's hear all about how MAGA hat-wearers are unfairly "targeted and bullied" for racism before we start slinging the ol' N-word around and posting our favorite lynching pics. :dayton:
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  29. Tuttle

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    That's right.

    Ramen's last post was a drive-by pure troll that consisted of a picture of a lynching. Was there text too?

    Not a good last post. But don't assume everyone is thinking of that when they say Hi, or that they are implicitly approving of his prior post that offended so many.

    As an aside: I was so very impressed by all the virtue expressed in that thread; up to that point I'd never realized the full extent of awesomeness possessed by so many WF elites, and the fury with which they came down on the troll was just mind blowing. Wf lefties embiggen us all.
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    You don't think there's some cognitive dissonance involved in rejecting any association between MAGA and racism while simultaneously embracing a MAGA proponent notorious for his racist postings? :unuts:
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