Terrorist Attack on Mosque in New Zealand

I'd like to see where you think I'm encouraging violence. I'm trying to let the other side know that the race of the shooter doesn't really matter. Most of the people of his kind are nice innocent people. It would be prejudice to say otherwise.

Offer me to who? The Muslim community? I would think they would be disgusted by your assumption that they would take retribution because of your prejudice.

I am pretty sure I could make a trade. You want to decide this question and tie yourself up and mail yourself to me so I can bring you to ISIS and see?

You can start by not saying stupid shit like that.

Speaking of the Muslim community. The folks inside the mosque didn't seem very diverse. I think it's time the government start introducing multiculturalism in order to help curb the difference. If Muslims were around more white people they will come to understand that we're all the same inside.

interesting! Tell us more about this "immigration". We've heard good things!

This is like watching a right wing chatbot regurgitating random lines without understanding meaning or context.

The worst place on the internet? You mean any of Tererun's posts?

Real ramen noodles are the bomb. Ramen shops have been popping up every where over the last decade where as before we had to go to specific Japanese areas to find the real deal.

here's an obvious conclusion to draw: blame the motherfucker who pulled the trigger. Sorry no long winded theories involved. The bottom line is who physically shot up the mosque?
Too easy - it's not rocket science.

he left two weapons in his car? If his weapon fucked up did he think he go back out to his car to get a spare? BTW why the fuck can't a weapon jam when you really, really need it to?

Dude had the fucking Navy Seal copypasta in his "manifesto", I wouldn't believe a word of it. Looks like the nutbag tried to be as sensational as he could, they got him alive, didn't they? This is going to be a spectacular shit show when they try him.

On Apolyton I see someone posted a picture of it which is not from the video. It is just one of the three guns though.

We're not 8chan, fuck off.

I agree, but if there's a pattern where lots of motherfuckers do similar things with similar motivations then the question seems worth asking to me. YMMV.

Isn't the red room explicitly for trolling?

I thought the terrorist broadcasted it on Facebook.

Of course. I would think that would go without saying. That said, we humans often like to ask the eternal question. "Why?"

It helps us to understand motive and intent. Very rarely do people exist and act in a vacuum. I, for one, would like to know what motivated this person to murder 49 innocent persons.

1. All the more reason to not spread what he wanted spread.

2. Don't try to play dumb about posting jokes generated by the same types who encouraged him to do this.

What makes you sure Pepe is "playing" dumb?

Because that's the entire act they've relied on for years.

"Oh, it's just ironic, chill out, get a sense of humour".

No. They're fucking Nazis, and there comes a clear point where you have to decide which side you're on.

Trump has moved them closer to the centre or has himself been forced closer to it by virtue of the realities he didn't have to contend with on the campaign trail?

That his promises have by and large not yet borne fruit doesn't alter that his support is based around them having been made. He's developed the knack of convincing people the sky is green over a lifetime of borderline business dealings and an awful lot of his support seem to remain convinced that he is delivering or that where he isn't it's the result of conspiracies against him amongst the press, the courts, the "establishment". That isn't new, we are all susceptible to confirmation bias, left or right, but Trump has a singular talent for playing on that and making statements which visibly bear no resemblance to the truth whatsoever and not only getting away with it but being seen as bombastic, a fighter, a maverick, whatever as a consequence.

I can't really think of another mainstream politician in the US with that same attribute, Clinton and Obama included and it seems to make his base inordinately stubborn. He plays to that confirmation bias to the point they will believe anything he says because they want to believe.

The wall was a classic example. People were so determined to confirm their preconceptions that the Mexican desert was not only a major security concern but that the danger was intensifying that all the fact checking in the world was for naught. It didn't matter that no terrorists are documented to have come through Mexico, that illegal immigration is actually at a low or that ports of entry are the major concern. It didn't matter that immigrants are less likely to offend.

What matters is that the narrative fitted neatly into peoples' preconceptions and therefore was true and he had promised them a very simple, visible and seemingly common sense solution. You want to keep people out? Build a wall. When you're already preconditioned to think in those terms any nuance, objection or complexity is unwelcome interference no matter how true or reasonable.

I'm not saying he caused those preconceptions (he may or may not be enabling them, I don't know) but I do think at the very least he has become their figurehead and where people are making the connections this shooter did it's about more than just "fake news". It's about him having intentionally or otherwise become a symbol of that mentality, a talisman or even champion for a fringe which has found itself at the forefront. It isn't about him being slandered or smeared, it's about the fact that his popularity and support is based on being perceived as that champion, whether it's true or not.

There's a precise, and quite technical, term that can be used to describe those people. They're "schmucks."

No question which side I'm on. The side where the WF Nazis and the chickenshits immediately put me on Ignore.

I've been fighting them since before @Dinner was born, and I'll fight them until I either die a natural death or one of them gets through my security measures and puts a bullet in my heart.

C'mon, @Dinner. You live just a coupla hours from me. Put your money where your Big Important Internet Persona is. C'mon, chickenshit. You're not the first (or probably the last) to threaten my life. But at least this will serve as a record, in case I'm killed, to look for the prime suspect. Come at me, chickenshit.

Although you may have to take a number behind @Tuttle and @Marso and a few of the other Big Men with Gunz who are so threatened by words that they have to wave their - um - equipment around.

If there were any doubt that words are more powerful than weapons, here it is, folks.

I definitely wasn't aiming that at you. It was about those who try to use the Nazis jokes and repeat their messages, pretending that a wink and a smile makes it ok.

didn't you say correlation does not equal causation or something along those lines? Another question worth asking speaking of patterns (just for comparison's sake of course) concerning similar things and similar motivations blacks are 50 percent of Augusta/Richmond County GA but commit over 90 percent of the homicides - every single year. No pattern or anything I'm sure.

There's a tricky line here in not wanting to signal boost this terrorist fucker, and learning from him.

One such case of that just came at his court appearance where he gave this symbol that we have been told definitely isn't at all used by white supremacists to mean anything.

You're talking to a guy that thought throwing up a picture of a black woman being hung was a great way to protest board policy.

Best to slap him on ignore and move on.

Storm Rucker definitely comes to mind, but we've had plenty others who did this, too. Scorp and Sokar did that Kikey Mikey shit against @actormike unabaited for years under the guise of being funny too. It's a wonder he didn't leave the board sooner.