Mueller Investigation

And so it begins.

I don’t think that’s quite as much an exoneration as it sounds. That statement is still consistent with the campaign or an affiliate coordinating with an intermediary, such as Wikileaks, who would not count as the Russian government.

What I love is the assumption among some here that the GOP will automatically back an incumbent with a <43% approval rating. They're just as likely to tell him he looks tired, hand him his golf clubs, and nominate Pence.

Kind of interesting the differing levels of TDS exhibited here.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/mueller-report-release/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

Based on what's already documented in court and on the public record...no.

"Tax Deduction at Source"?

Barr wrote the pardons for the entire Iran-Contra bullshit.

FIRST ANNUAL GOLDEN GUNT AWARD CEREMONY
The Russia Conspiracy

For the category of big-brained theories, the Golden Gunt goes to: [drumroll]

For the category of most consistently inaccurate predictions, the Golden Gunt goes to:

For the category of wishful thinking, the Golden Gunt goes to:

For the category of most salt mined, the Gunt goes to:

For the category of coldest takes, the Golden Gunt goes to:

And finally, for the category of 'I'm getting sick of this whole thing being made into a left-right issue,' the Gunt goes to:

All of this.

If you don't think that Trump is a criminal, I want to visit whatever beach you're at where you've buried your head. Must be pretty big.

https://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3131908/

Congratulations to all of you! You earned your Gunts. You are all winners!

"Mueller finds no collusion with Russian Government"

Key distinction. The IC knows full well it's never "officially" the "government"

No one takes you seriously.

So you, too, have looked into the future and can assert with absolute confidence that the GOP would never try to save "the Party" by nominating Pence. Fascinating.

Given that Trump and all his allies have been calling the whole idea that Russians acted to assist his campaign a "hoax" - and given that Mueller's remit was to determine if such assistance occurred and if so the nature of it and who was involved - and given that he concluded it did, in fact, occur co-ordination or no....then he established a crucial bit of factual information that the public needed to know.

If Trump is now going to say "Mueller is credible, can be trusted, and he found I did nothing wrong in relation to Russia" then he MUST also say "clearly the Russians did in fact act on my behalf which i reject and repudiate as an attack on our sovereignty and sanctions will be forthcoming."

Which, we all know, he will not.


Moreover, the charges already brought, convictions and guilty pleas already achieved, and material facts on the record, all make it more than worthwhile to have had this investigation. It was never necessary to indict Trump to make the investigation worthwhile. Obviously, there's a long long list of things, well beyond his conduct of the campaign, that I want to see Trump held accountable for - but if he skates on this particular matter that alone doesn't justify anyone crowing that Mueller failed and the whole thing was a witch hunt.

What crime? Link or summary with details would be interesting at this point. Watching the trainwreck seen in MSM reaction has been pretty entertaining but not particularly filling.

Trump's headed for a landslide not seen since Reagan's second term, not sure that the approval rating means what you think it means.

Until/unless there is new news, Trump will blow away a party that is anti-union, extremist, baby killing, socialist, anti free speech, anti male, anti meat, anti propagation, anti border security, pro war, pro crime, do nothing obstructionist, etc.

Those who believe Trump doesn't have a very strong chance of winning in 2020 had best prepare yourselves for yet another rude awakening (first the election, and now exposure of the Russia collusion hoax) - it would be good idea to poke around and find some new sources of information that haven't so severely misinformed you for so long on so many subjects.

I'm not certain you were.

"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in it's election interference activities."

Yet we already know in the official public record that Paul Manafort (for just one example) shared polling data with a Russian oligarch - NOT a government official - who's a close Putin ally.

So this provokes the question - does "did not establish" mean "established they did not" or does it mean "did not prove to the level necessary for indictment" or something else? Or is the remark specifically confined to direct government contact which leaves a ton of room for other co-ordination...though potentially none of it a violation of a specific law.

What we do know are these:

1. The information already documented in the public record, which is bad stuff
2. Trump's overt consciousness of guilt - there are very clearly things he doesn't want the public to know, all along the way and still
3. Trump's overt and otherwise irrational behavior which is empowering to Putin. Despite the documented fact of interference which he was informed of months before the election.
4. McConnell's partisan obstruction of disclosure to voters that said interference was occurring.

You big baby.

Look how desperate you are.

You should go work for MSNBC.

You'd fit in perfectly.

"Trump will blow away a party that is anti-union, extremist, baby killing, socialist, anti free speech, anti male, anti meat, anti propagation, anti border security, pro war, pro crime, do nothing obstructionist, etc."

I am reinforced in my conclusion that your entire thing for the last 2+ years is a Flashlight-style troll. You cannot possibly believe the shit you post.

If you can believe the shit you post, and it is a giant pile of putrid shit, than why can't he believe his pile of shit?

Right?

Republicans say "it's so wrong to have endless expensive investigations and turn up no charges at all against the principle!!!"

Republicans (Lindsey Graham) also say "We need to reopen (yet another!) investigation into Hillary Clinton!"

Can you tell I'm not paying any attention to you?

If not, watch more closely. I only quote tweet you when your remark serves as a suitable platform for what I wish to say, I have no interest at all in whether or not you find my comments credible or whatever.

Do carry on though if it amuses you.

Oh, my, where did I ever say that I believed it?

I simply listed many, real, actual positions taken by Democrats in recent months and how they will be portrayed, successfully imo, by Trump. SO the only "belief" you saw me express is my prediction 1) that (based on current informational situation) Trump will win by very large margin, and 2) Trump will successfully convey to a large enough group of Americans that the Dems are all those things I listed, more or less, to achieve my prediction of landslide win in 2020.

Oh, forgot anti energy, pro corporate slush, anti Christian, anti law, and want to abolish several key Constitutional protections just because they lost an election and are sore losers …

What crimes are you thinking he committed? Evidence?

Or Deripaska, for that matter. Not part of the Russian government.

As opposed to you, who lives in Fantasyland.

No one could possibly take you seriously.

@Kasparov63 1h1 hour ago

Putin uses his oligarchs as emissaries to corrupt, cultivate, and compromise foreign business people and politicians. But they aren't officially state actors. It's a mafia using a nation for cover.

So Trump's campaign manager sharing data with a Ukrainian loyal to the Kremlin or a billionaire crony of Putin isn't "conspiring with Russia" only in the most technical, least accurate sense.

This pattern has repeated all over. Loans to Western politicians & parties with Russian backing, millions in donations from private citizens. Technically very little of it is "Russia," but it's always Putin.

Defending will require transparency, unity, and a commitment to strengthening the institutions Putin exploits so easily. It will also require fighting back on terms a mafia responds to.

As with Trump's power grabs post-election, there is a lot of work to do so that the letter of the law matches the spirit of the law. If winning an election after asking for and receiving the aid of a hostile foreign power isn't illegal, it sure as hell should be.

Campaign finance reform, full financial disclosure, eliminating potential conflicts of interest. Running for office or running a country for personal gain must be proscribed if real democracy is to survive.

your comment was "the party that is" and then rattled off a bunch of bullshit - you didn't say " the party that he CLAIMS is..."