Right Wing Disinformation Machine

Does the fact that you have to go back 16 years and even then it isn’t even close to on the same level AND the guy got fired for it make your false equivalence alarm even chirp a little? Or have you completely disabled it?

It's the first example I thought of, being as it got a highly respected news guy fired and all. But I suspect you'd justify or excuse any other example I came up with because your preconceptions are set in stone, so . . .

Ah, the Oldfella ‘I could back my BS statement up if I wanted to! You just aren’t worth it. ‘

I don't disagree with the last sentence, but to compare the scale of falsehoods and literal fake news peddled by Fox and their ilk to what the mainstream press does is laughable.

The latter is the Baltic. The former is the Pacific.

That your go-to example is from the Bush administration kind of proves how wrong you are.

They say the Pacific has no memory.

So like Lanz when it comes to the repeated examples of the Right going nuttier and nuttier and Fox and Co’s continuous stream of lies and disinformation.

Oh, it's paralleled, we just have to look back to the 1930s...

What about the 50s and McCarthy?

Olaf disagrees!

Oh yeah, I forgot Lanzman justifies his "both sides" bullshit by considering what long dead lefties did decades ago, and what their descendants might do decades from now.

Related:

Russian collusion, hoax
Russian bounties, hoax
Syrian gas attack, hoax
60 Minutes smear against Ron Desantis, hoax

I like how Russian collusion was a BIG DEAL for the Democratic party, and the media, right up until Biden won the election and well fuck it just wasn't important any more.

Biden wants to look into it: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/04/26/the-first-100-days-breaking-with-trump-on-russia/

Trump not mentioned, but Treasury hasn't forgotten about Russian interference: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126

But here's the Trump connection: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/us/politics/russian-intelligence-trump-campaign.html

What Biden and this administration wants is another Cold War. That always rakes in the money for military contracts, and so our consent is being manufactured to give ample reason, true or not, for that Cold War. If it were somehow true, however, it would be a little taste of medicine for the US and what it does to dozens of other countries in order to secure its own increase in wealth and power. That said, it's unlikely true, but there will always be a wisp of smoke to keep it alive for people who really want that old Reagan era Cold War mentality once again.

Citation needed.

Sure.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/03/2...rity-strategic-guidance-global-fight-freedom/

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-china-cold-war/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/19/politics/president-joe-biden-russia-china/index.html

https://www.democracynow.org/2021/3/16/vijay_prashad_us_china_rivalry

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ted-armed-drone-exports-sources-idUSKBN2BH1CA

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...d-with-him-on-national-security-idUSKBN27N0YZ

Well I was canned from The (Glenn Beck owned) Blaze Network, because I wouldn't slant my stories to feed their consultant's hatred of Obama and the MSM.

Wait... You worked for The Blaze?!?!

The collusion thing was always bullshit - it was a term that the Trump lie machine chose because it isn't a legal term and not possible to prove.

But he absolutely knew he was being helped by the Russians and actively sought out their support.

Trump had his son, son-in-law and national security advisor meet with Russian agents to discuss getting dirt on Clinton. Trump's own lawyers admitted in a filing that he drafted a misleading response for Jr personally on the matter. Cohen admitted that Trump knew of the meeting in advance. The Trumps say there was no useful information, but admit they met for that purpose. Of course, useful information came in droves later from that source.

Then Trump famously asked Russia publicly to find Clinton's other emails, and Russian military intelligence tried to hack her personal server at home within 4 hours.

Trump admitted he'd take information from foreigners in an interview with Stephanopolous.

Trump's campaign advisor Paul Manafort turned over critical opposition research to a Russian intelligence agent he ran a business with, Konstantin Kilimnik. The same advisor who worked for Trump for free - despite owing millions to Putin-linked oligarchs. After working for a pro-Russian puppet government in the Ukraine. And who was convicted of lying to the FBI and tax fraud but was pardoned by Trump. Kilimnik is now wanted for jury tampering in Manafort's trial. The US treasury said he directly gave the pro-Trump polling data to Russian intelligence. He's also wanted for interfering in the 2020 election.

And of course the Russians did hack the DNC and Podesta and use a cutout, wikileaks, to filter that information out. Stone, another criminal that was convicted of lying over this and was pardoned, actively worked with Assange. Assange had been on the Russian payroll directly in the past. And Assange's lawyer stated a US congressman, Dana Rohrbacher, known as 'Putin's Congressman' and claimed by the current minority leader McCarthy to be on the take with Russia, offered to give Assange a pardon from Trump as long as Assange said the information did not come from Russia - which we know it did.

Trump tried to get Russia to help oversee our cybersecurity for the 2020 election - which they also attempted to interfere to help Trump.

A known Czech intelligence officer stated that the Warsaw Pact intelligence agencies tried to recruit Trump in the 1980s. He visited Moscow in 1987 and came back and took out a full page ad to tell the US to get out of NATO.

A Russian intelligence officer claimed Trump had been a long time Russian asset just last year.

One of Trump's many, many lies was to say he had no business interests in Russia during the 2016 campaign. Per his lawyer Cohen Trump was still actively trying to get Putin to sign off on a real estate deal there, and both of his sons independently stated that they got most of their financial backing through Russia in the teens. Trump was tied to money laundering for decades, his Trump Taj Mahal casino getting the largest fine ever for money laundering according to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network. And Trump had numerous connections with Russian mafia, including a major Russian mafiaoso being captured at Trump Tower, a business dealing with another for Trump Soho, and another one being arrested in Trump Tower for racketeering.

And the most significant loan Trump openly had was through Deutsche Bank - who also famously is among the largest Russian moneylaunderers, receiving the largest fine ever for a bank. The man who ran Trump's account died under mysterious circumstances in 2018. A whistle blower against Deutsche bank just was reporting missing, his car abandoned in a field and his whereabout unknown, while he waited to testify against the bank.

But sure. Nothing to see here. Move along.

There are no sufficient words, and facepalms are too overused. But you are clearly in fantasy territory here.

There are elements within and close to the Biden Administration and to the Democrats generally, who are pushing for confrontation with Russia. (Neocons have found a new home within the Democratic Party). But things are a little more complex than Biden himself wanting another Cold War.

Eighty four posts so far....84 posts.....and not one of you motherfuckers (and I use that term loosely) has said it, so you have forced my hand:
Right Wing Disinformation Machine? Great band name! It goes without saying that Rage Against The Right Wing Disinformation Machine might even work for most of wordforge.

Every indication so far is that Biden sees foreign policy in general as a potential pitfall/distraction from his ambitious domestic agenda. It is something to be managed.


The above combined with the American Rescue Act ($1.9T), his Jobs and Infrastructure package ($2.3T) and a healthcare package (likely same ballpark) we are looking at the largest expansion in social spending since FDR. The only other comparison in the last 90 years is Johnson. Who’s domestic agenda got derailed by foreign policy (Vietnam).

This isn’t lost on Biden.

Sounds like a Christian Rock Band

It was a gig and I needed the money (the pay was excellent by radio standards) I was doing two weekend shifts with crappy hours. That lasted until they realized I wasn’t a team player.

Mods, please change my username to Rage Against The Right Wing Disinformation Machine

My favorite Daily Fail moment was a story, since corrected, stating NASA was sending a probe that would orbit 26 miles from the surface of the sun. Turns out it was actually 26 million miles. Even the looney tunes in the comments section questioned that one.