SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

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    nation wide ammo shortage would be my guess.
     
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    :huh: Those folks are the experts at finding veins!
     
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    Not peer reviewed. The lead name on the study is a gynecologist. Here are the others and the practice they're associated with. The study suggests ventilated patients might benefit; it does not suggest HQC and/or AZM be used as a prophylactic.

    Here's the full text.

    Here's another article from a year ago that suggests HQC and AZM may cause increased heart problems.

     
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    Not peer reviewed, probably will be not be published as-is. 1. Claims to be a RCT; it's not. 2. This is minor, but indicative: it treats all corticosteroids as convertible to dexamethasone-equivalent when previous literature indicated that dexamethasone was more effective than other steroids at treating COVID-19 at what would otherwise be equivalent doses (Summary here). 3. Probably the most-fatal flaw: major time-series survivorship bias -- patients can't get to the higher cumulative doses if they die first, thus only patients who survived got the highest cumulative doses. This is further magnified by arbitrarily dividing the "treatment" group from the "non-treatment" group by cumulative dose received. "The people who died later survived longer than those who died early" is not exactly news. Like, we know that the longer you're on a ventilator, the less likely you'll survive to get off it, but looking at the data the same way as this paper does, you'd see the same curve from figure 1: the longer people are on the ventilator, the longer they survive, because death is causing the discontinuation of the treatment, not recovery.

    The lack of cardiotoxicity (QTc prolongation) in the treatment group is probably the most interesting result in the paper (albeit one that's in conflict with the article steve linked to), and could be followed up on, but basing any treatment plan on it does kinda presume that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are actually useful together in treating anything at all.
     
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    It's just sad multiple states had to create these kind of lotteries to get people interested...
     
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    But at least they’re doing something to get more people vaccinated. My state isn’t doing anything, it seems.
     
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    https://www.rivm.nl/en/coronavirus-covid-19/current-information

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    Mom's care facility is on lockdown for 2 weeks, since somebody in there tested positive. My sister can't even go in to see her, and they're both vaxed.
     
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    My friend in Kolkata said she just got her first dose with her niece yesterday :)

    Their second dose is in approximately 84 days :(
     
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    Da fuq?
     
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    Oh yeah, that happened a couple of weeks ago...
    Was in the news daily, the soldier is still MIA...
     
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    so......will they give him the covid vaccine in prison? Because that would be hilarious!
     
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    What happens after we get the zevon strain?
     
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    We turn into fashionable werewolves.
     
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    That's the Zohan strain.
     
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    That's about 1000x more likely than "COVID19 was a bio-weapon released on purpose" like some people that run in my circles might claim.
     
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