So what is Critical Race Theory?

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  1. Fisherman's Worf

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    I'm glad you posted it in @steve2^4's favorite format. :D
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  2. Fisherman's Worf

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    There is apparently a kernel of truth in the derangement about the "math is racist" thing.

    https://equitablemath.org/

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    Did you actually read the content at the link, or just trust rightwing commentators to interpret it for you? :chris:
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    I read some of it. There's a shitload and I lost interest quickly. But they aren't lying. That shit is in there.
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    I TLDR-ed UA's post anticipating that he TLDR-ed it himself, and I was right.
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    Yeah, I only skimmed a little bit of it too, but it made sense to me. There was advice in there like "don't just assume the prerequisite knowledge exists" and "quality not quantity" that I wish my own teachers had followed. Little Ray knows how to do long division, but if you try to make him prove it a hundred times in a row in one class, he's going to get bored and cranky. Little Ray completely tuned out for grade 8 and 9 because he was severely depressed and that's why grade 10 math and science so confusing to him, but he's too embarrassed to say it out loud. Fill in those gaps, give him the appropriate textbooks from those years so he can figure shit out and he'll be fine. Don't just send him to get glasses or assume he's not trying. :shrug:
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    Little Ray needs to get the fuck over himself and absorb the fact that the world does not revolve around his delicate fucking emotional state. That, also, is part of a TRUE education that prepares one to function in the real world. The fact that the school is expected to deal with baggage like that at all is a shortcoming of the parents.

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    From the site:

    There was actually a thread about this site on Wordforge a couple of months ago and an interesting tangent in the thread was discussion of Common Core teaching methods. An often heard criticism of those methods is that kids aren't being taught the way their parents were, so they find it harder to help.

    I don't necessarily agree with all their interpretations of everything, but the actual teaching material there seems to be largely based around strategies for helping students understand mathematical concepts rather than just learning by rote.
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    To be clear, I am not railing at the reductive "math is racist" presentation. I'm saying the real world is not going to tailor its expectations to the ways you are comfortable learning. The real world is "adapt or perish," and education fails if it is not preparing students to function in the real world. This notion of "equitable instruction" is just kicking that can down the road. Next it will be colleges and private employers who are expected to tailor their requirements to the comfort of individual applicants. Life just does not work like that.
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    No it doesn't.

    However it doesn't follow that we should set systems up that act to make that more pronounced however.

    If an aspect of education can be shown to favour one group over another in spite of there being no commensurate differential in native potential then that is a shortfall which should be addressed.

    Not only for ethical reasons but because that shortfall is reducing the effectiveness of the service being provided.
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    I don't see that demonstrated. I see it treated as a default assumption in justification of systems purporting to make it less pronounced according to highly subjective measures.

    Objectivity cannot be "shown" to favor one group over another without holding one of those groups to an objectively lesser standard.

    That reduces it to whether you measure effectiveness by way of rewarding merit, or by way of advancing the greatest number of students categorized as "disadvantaged" by some quality other than scholastic achievement.
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    At exactly what age do you think "you fucked up, weakness will not be tolerated, prepare to die in the cold" should become the standard for how we treat human beings? :chris:

    Also, it's not an "education" if you don't have a chance to learn from your mistakes and continue to grow. That's just consequences. And don't give me that "cautionary example for the other kids" bullshit either. :brood:
    I can't stop imagining you screaming this at a crying baby. :rotfl:
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    Adulthood, approached at a gradual rate.

    Which would include the revelation that the universe doesn't turn on their feelings. I would in fact consider this vital.

    No, but neither will I be asking school faculty to do the job of parents.
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    If we really wanted children to succeed in the real world, we'd focus on teaching them how to kiss ass, look busy when they're not doing shit, and gleefully stab other people in the back. The real world isn't a meritocracy where only the smart and capable survive. It's a junior high cafeteria writ large.
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    And it will remain so as long as we keep celebrating this popularity contest/call out culture bullshit.
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    Meanwhile, when working with hundreds of school kids over the past few years, the best results have generally come when they have respect for each other and the different strengths and approaches that come from their differences.
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