Which is odd, because I can see the appeal of anime, but Squid Game? I've never grasped what folk are getting out of torture porn like that, Jigsaw, Human Centipede, Cube... The closest I've ever gotten to that is The Running Man, but there at least you know Arnie is going to survive.
I refuse that definition. Torture porn, the characters are just meat. Squid Game gets you to care for and root for the characters.
Torture porn is generally gruesome torture for it's own sake. Human centipede and the later saw movies were torture porn. Squid games, cube, and the first saw film had much more going for them than just pure gore. Squid games was not very gory or torturous at all. Most of the kills were gunshots or falls. I mention squid game because there is a certain genre of stories coming from asia which involves games of death. Squid games gained huge popularity because of the characters and statements the movie made about us. Yes, the games are entertaining, but they are really secondary to the lives of the characters and the drama that came around. That development attracted a lot of people who would normally not be watching South Korean death game shows like alice in Borderland. Squid games had so much more than death games, and that made it popular. Netflix tried with cowboy bebop to add more of a netflix style ark and characters. You could not have presented a straight up remake of the anime and gotten new viewers. Bebop may be great for adult anime fans, but it does not draw huge amounts of non-anime fans in. You could probably make a live action Grave of the Fireflies and win some awards and attract non-anime fans. Bebop was just very cartoony still. I am actually glad the second season is not coming for one reason. That would be Ed. Ed may please people who love anime, but that was going to be one hell of an annoying character in live action. Even in the anime most people would have found Ed to be a huge turnoff character.
I’ve finished the first and only season of Netflix’s live-action adaptation of Cowboy Bebop. As a long-time super fan of the original anime, an illustrator, a writer, and an animation professor, I’ll do my best to account for everything I can. This has spoilers for both the Netflix series and the original Anime We’ll start with a quick star rating. For the tl;dr, scroll down to the “Overall” section at the bottom. 4/10 Stars We’ll start with the more tangible elements: the explicit story. Then we’ll dive into the deep stuff: the philosophy that forms the narrative substructure of the series and how Spike’s dissociation (living in a dream) relates to that. Then we’ll talk about the good, the bad, and the end. Buckle up, cowboys. THE EXPLICIT STORY: Spike leaves the syndicate and asks Julia to come with him, but Julia is found out and is given an ultimatum by Vicious to either kill Spike or he’ll have them both killed. She doesn’t go to see Spike, and so he leaves the syndicate alone. Vicious apparently doesn’t make good on that ultimatum, or is unable to kill Julia. The latter seems more likely, as that was the case with Spike, as well. There’s a bit of cat-and-mouse there. So Spike leaves for three years, and during this time he meets Jet and the two go bounding around as bounty hunters, eventually meeting Ein, Faye, and Ed. At some point, Spike had an accident, though--and this is extremely important, narratively. I’m not sure exactly when that happens chronologically in the story, and I may just be misremembering details. The point is, though, that he loses his eye and receives a false one. He says that in one eye he sees the past and in the other he sees the present. To briefly conclude the narrative notes, eventually Vicious tries to overthrow the elders of the syndicate, but it “fails” (not really). He’s captured and held prisoner, awaiting his execution. During this time, the elders send out hit men to take down anyone who has ever associated with Vicious and the “new guard,” so to speak. That includes Julia and Annie. The past catches up to Spike and Julia, and they’re brought back together to deal with their ties to the syndicate. Meanwhile, the second phase of Vicious’s plan kicks off, and he slaughters the elders, crowning himself its leader. Spike and Julia find Annie, watch her die, and resolve to take down Vicious. Julia dies in the process, and Spike faces off against Vicious. He “wins,” but is mortally wounded. And then... And then we all cry and sob like absolute babies, because the existential underpinnings are too much to bear. Right? Okay, so let’s dive into THAT, and why Nemec and the development team did NOT understand the assignment. What follows this is exploring precisely what the show’s essence was, and these are the things that Nemec and the development team either didn’t understand or didn’t respect--or both. The Psychology and Philosophy: Themes of Nihilism and Absurdity The themes of nihilism and absurdity run deep in Cowboy Bebop. I won’t make this torturous to get through--it’s pretty straight-forward, honestly. Spike loses his eye in a violent accident and starts seeing the past in one and the present in the other. He spends the rest of his life feeling like he’s in a dream. This theme of dreaming is the blood of Cowboy Bebop. It’s Spike dissociating and struggling to connect to reality after intense trauma and the despair of heartbreak, losing the one thing (person) he cared about--the thing he tells Jet that he had lost somewhere along the way. That’s what Julia was to Spike. She made him worthy of existing. So Spike spends three years completely unattached, and unable to attach to anything. This is his character and personality throughout the bulk of the series. We catch up to him at the beginning of the anime, but in the middle of his dream. The only thing keeping him connected to reality at all is the hope of seeing Julia again and learning that he isn’t just dreaming. He really isn’t sure if he died during that accident. He wakes up with a false eye and reality looks strange to him. Unfamiliar. But when Julia dies, that totem to reality is gone and he detaches completely. He tries to explain to Faye why he has to face off against Vicious, but she doesn’t understand. He isn’t going there to die. He’s going there to find out of he’s really alive. He’s going there for closure, and the only way to get that is to face Vicious. Vicious is the personification of nihilism in Cowboy Bebop. Spike, in his dissociative state, is living in absurdity. Unsure if he’s alive, if anything has any meaning, and yet he pushes forward. This is absurdity, in the philosophical sense. But it isn’t really enough for Spike. He’s willing to drift until something that ties him back to the reality he once knew strikes him. This is Julia, particularly. Even when it’s Vicious’s name that triggers him, it’s still in reference to Julia’s whereabouts. That is, until she dies. Then it becomes about waking up, and Vicious says multiple times that he is the only one who can kill Spike. He’s the only one who can set Spike free. The only one who can wake him up from this dream. Death, for Spike, is closure. It’s the release from his hypnagogic post-accident existence. That hypnagogue is the landscape of transience that Cowboy Bebop exists within, as we catch up to the characters. That’s the space of the story that we’re introduced to. We’re on this transient journey with a found family who catch each other in passing as their pasts are catching up to them. Eventually they do, and each of them has to reckon with it. Jet understands this, which is why he doesn’t fight Spike’s decision. He’s an ex-cop, and he knows very well just how peoples’ past actions find them later, always. Spike has a reckoning, and nothing can stop it. And he has to face it. So he goes to face off against Vicious so that he can wake up. He’s been suffering this dissociation for three years, and he needs to live again. He’s going there to live. To be set free. That’s Cowboy Bebop. The dissociative disorder, the nihilism, the absurdity. It’s transient and tragic. It’s everything Nemec wanted to avoid, by his own words, and so he was destined to fail by any artistic measure of the story of Cowboy Bebop and what makes it significant. It’s a devastating exploration of lost human beings, and you cannot abandon that without collapsing Cowboy Bebop into something that can never be Cowboy Bebop. Nemec didn’t understand the assignment. He didn’t engage with the story at its depths--or if he did, he didn’t appreciate it and couldn’t respect it as a result. Cowboy Bebop is more than a stylistic sci-fi western noir. It’s more than superficial fun and aesthetic appeal. It’s a pensive, dissociative, transient dream about a found family that was fated to merely cross paths. Netflix’s adaptation was destined to fail because it failed to engage with the story at its core--at its essence. Nemec didn’t have the wherewithal to accomplish the task. It seems to me that he was woefully ill-equipped as a critical storyteller to translate these elements into live-action. That’s all there is to it. All right. Let’s talk about the Netflix adaptation a bit more, starting with what it does reasonably well. THE GOOD: To start, I’ll talk about what’s working. First, Yoko Kanno’s music is, as to be expected, the show’s biggest saving grace. There’s a fair amount of recycling from the original series, often updated somewhat for better or worse. When it’s not as good as the original tune, it’s still not bad, but often any issue with the music in this adaptation isn’t the song itself but the moments and manner in which they’re used--often feeling forced in like a wrong puzzle piece for the sake of nostalgia and to carry an otherwise poorly directed scene. One standout performance is Mustafa Shakir, who does by FAR the best of the cast with his turn as Jet Black. There are moments that are bad, but he does the best he can with what’s been given to him, and often he truly feels like he understood the assignment and channels Jet quite well. Another standout is Tamara Tunie as Annie, who plays a much bigger role in this adaptation than the character in the anime. This was the most successful change made from the anime to live-action. Tunie brings dignity to an otherwise goofy, melodramatic adaptation--but we’ll get more into TONE later. Another smaller part that stood out to me as particularly memorable, given that he’s a totally new character, is A Martinez as Stax. This character didn’t need to exist in the series at all, but Martinez really sells the character and manages to bear gravity and menace which is sorely missing in the more important villains of the series; I’m looking at you, Vicious. Ending the first season on Fallen Angels was a very good decision, in general. But that’s to say nothing of its execution, which I’ll get into later. THE BAD: We’ll start with the least bad and sort of go from there. Cho is an enjoyable actor, but he struggles as Spike. Sometimes he gets it, but much of the time he’s not able to carry the quiet, brooding, existential gravitas that the character is known for. He’s channeling a bit of the swagger and a lot of the goofball, but almost none of the menace that Spike is capable of, which was carried over from his syndicate days. This isn’t necessarily Cho’s fault, either--at least not entirely. This can also easily be laid at the feet of the writers and, in particular, the director. This adaptation only has a superficial understanding of nearly every aspect of the series, and their portrayal of Spike is no different. Spike has his endearing goofball moments, but this adaptation completely abandons his cold irritability when it comes to Faye, Ein, and Ed. They soften him far too much from the onset, rather than let that part of him develop over time. Whatever of Spike is jaded in this new series doesn’t play much in the foreground of his character, and when it does it’s not treated with the weight it deserves, but rather a highly-stylized, superficial, transparent narrative device that constantly reminds us that we’re watching a TV show--a TV show adapted from a particular pop culture icon. Next, we’ll talk about Faye. Faye was done dirty as hell in this adaptation. She has a superficial entrance that shows all the flash and none of the substance, which is consistent throughout the season. This is Faye: The real Faye, underneath the persona she keeps. We get none of this Faye. Instead, we get this Faye: Daniella Pineda doesn’t hit the mark, and plays the character too much like a kitschy, fowl-mouthed teenager. Again, though, some of (perhaps most of) this must be laid at the feet of the writing and directing. This adaptation completely glosses over Honky Tonk Woman, which is an absolute travesty, and it sets the standard for how this adaptation denies Faye her dignity as a smooth operator with a lot more depth than she lets on. The fake mother backstory was atrocious. It shoehorned a glossy, comedy-driven history into a character who never gets her shot at being a real person. There’s a reason the most successful moments with Faye center around her witnessing pieces of the past she’s forgotten--it comes from the original anime and does a much better job exploring the character than any of the veneer that this adaptation paints over the weathered beauty of the original grain. While the lesbian encounter isn’t necessarily beyond conceivable for Faye’s character, this adaptation’s handling of it didn’t offer anything but an obligatory nod to inclusion, much like it’s random, superfluous, and at times gratuitous insertions of BDSM. And I say that as someone with an interest in that community, so it isn’t a prude dismissal of the practice, but a criticism of superficiality in storytelling. Faye wasn’t given the depth she deserved, and too much of her story was glossed over or abandoned for something much less substantial. Julia. Another female character who was completely declawed and overacted. You might say, “But the end! She gets her claws!” Yeah, but they aren’t good claws. To be strong she had to become villainous? Not buying it, and it’s not Julia’s character. This adaptation turns Julia into a weepy, soapy damsel, with the intent of giving her an arc which finds her coming out of it strong. The problem is that her character’s arc isn’t consistent. There are episodes where she’ll go from somber damsel to murderous queen with very little provocation, and when she turns on Spike at the end it comes ENTIRELY out of left field. There was no narrative effort made to foreshadow her growing bitterness toward him, and so it feels like a tacked-on twist. And that’s being generous and entertaining the idea that this conceptualization of that triangular relationship is good at all, which I don’t believe it is. The whole situation feels polished and melodramatic, which the director mistakes for style. Julia should be like Spike--jaded and brooding; numbed by a life too long in the greyest moral landscape and surrounded by misery and death for the sake of power and control. If they wanted to play her character the way they did, it would’ve been stronger to have her pursue the throne almost indifferently, not really knowing her own motivation other than to get out of her situation with Vicious. She should have a marked coldness, but with a dissonant drive to find meaning. She’s empty, but doesn’t know what else to do with herself. She’s drifting, just like Spike, in this dream world. They’ve dissociated to deal with the pain. Vicious. Criminally over-acted. Again, this could just as easily be laid at the feet of the writing and directing rather than Alex Hassell’s efforts. I don’t think Hassell was right for the part in general, but this adaptation absolutely eradicates the gravity of Vicious by injecting him with farcical melodrama and yet another weak backstory. He’s portrayed as a loose-cannon with major daddy issues, rather than the cold, calculating raptor that he is in the anime. If anything, Vicious should’ve been UNDER-acted by someone with an enthralling poker-face. When you look into his eyes, you should see nothing. His motivation is to leave people devastatingly, inexorably face-to-face with their own profound weakness. He is a mercilessly precise psychoanalyzer, and a blade straight to the heart of what makes us fearful about ourselves--the beast, the shadow, perfectly adapted for survival against a meaningless world of dreams. This adaptation forces Vicious to his knees, often literally, completely unable to control himself. The exact opposite of the character’s true nature. Gren. I don’t have too much to say about Gren, other than I feel they robbed another character of their dignity and weight. Gren shouldn’t have showed up in this first season. He should’ve arrived in the second season and his story should’ve been kept in tact. He wasn’t trans. His character was a veteran of the War on Titan, and when he was betrayed by his old comrade, Vicious, he became so depressed that he was given an experimental drug which increased his estrogen levels, causing him to grow breasts. Making him trans didn’t offer anything to the character, though Park’s portrayal isn’t without its charm, and I do think they could’ve played the character better. When Park is able to take the character down to earth, they shine much better than the superficial pageantry that defines too much of the character in this iteration. Showrunner Andre Nemec (upon whom I place the majority of blame for this turnout) said in an interview with Entertainment Weekly, source: https://ew.com/tv/cowboy-bebop-mason-alexander-park-gren-nonbinary/ So it becomes clear here that Nemec never had any respect for the tone of the original series to begin with, and Gren’s character alterations were little more than a way to shoehorn in a superficial modern conception of who the character SHOULD be in an idealized iteration of Cowboy Bebop as Nemec himself wanted it, not as it masterfully existed. And it should be remembered, on that point, that Gren may not have been explicitly trans, but he WAS explicitly gay. Nemec would’ve done well to acknowledge that it wasn’t his job to judge the series and build something he thought was morally better, but rather his job was to understand the series at its depths and call forth its essence into reality with good faith and dignity. Instead, he completely abandons the most important aspect of the series: the TONE. THE TONE: Cowboy Bebop (anime) is a bittersweet noir at its core. It is thoughtful, brooding, and existential--even a bit absurdist. But that doesn’t mean it’s grim. On the contrary, it’s absurdism comes out in the playfulness of its jaded characters. Spike isn’t hopeless, he’s unattached. He says that, but its only the persona that allows him to slip in and out of any situation without risking attachment. He saves the dog (Ein). He trains Roco. He even empathizes with Vincent, and sees himself and probably even Vicious in that character. He knows what war and violence does to a person, and his spirit lives in understanding for them. He lives as an absurdist, but he has faith (or, at minimum, curiosity) in spirituality. Let’s not forgot the wonderful character of Laughing Bull, which the live-action adaptation completely does away with, to its peril. Laughing Bull is a part of that hopeful, sweet-in-the-bittersweet nectar of Cowboy Bebop’s tone. What parts of Bebop are bright aren’t without their depth, because the levity is grounded in irreverence most often, with the wonderful exception of Ed, who shines like a supernova and cuts straight through the grit. She’s the perfect counterbalance. But back to that bittersweet tone, there are elements of the series which define it that Nemec either didn’t grasp or didn’t respect enough to maintain. Too much backstory is shoehorned in, and every backstory is a disastrous farce compared to its supposed inspiration. Jet’s family is superfluous. Faye’s fake mother is a cringe-inducing joke. God only knows what they’re going to do to Ed, who actually has one of the more cohesive backstories, ironically enough. The anime was all about TRANSIENCE. The backstories of these characters came in fleeting flashes as they reminisced about their lives before the dream began. They all felt as though they’d already lived their better lives, and in the wake of the collapse of those lives they’ve been living in a dream defined by ennui and mourning. They’re living day to day, moment to moment, and slowly the whiff of family begins to collect again around this ragtag team of bounty hunters. But it can’t last, because everyone’s past comes back to collect in one way or another. They’re released from the dream of the Bebop, and just as quickly as their stories merged, they diverged once again and all were on their way. That transience is given stylistic lip service in this live-action adaptation, as much of the story’s deeper elements are--if they exist at all for Nemec’s unfaithful interpretation. Nemec didn’t understand the assignment. He was the wrong man for the job. The directing was atrocious. An absurd amount of canted angles. Overdramatizing fish-eye close-ups. Rickety choreography (although Spike’s eradication of the Neptune gang is a standout shot). The acting was campy, as though the director and showrunner assume that any adaptation from an animated series must have a superfluous quality to it--which is another example of not understanding the assignment. The cinematography, among a host of other style elements, seemed hell-bent on robbing the story of any gravity and dignity it may have had and supplanting it with insubstantial style and pageantry. This effort is an insult not only to the characters and the story, but to the spirit of the music which gives the show its soul. There was no dignity to this adaptation. I keep going back to that, but it’s so incredibly important, and its the smoking gun of a failed assignment. You cannot tackle a series like Cowboy Bebop--you cannot adapt it in any other form--without first fully understanding and respecting its tone. The tone is the whole spirit of a show like this. It is the single most defining aspect of the work, and if you do not do your homework and engage with it deeply and emotionally so that you come out of it with a sense of responsibility rather than viewing it as an established name within which you can inject your own narratives, then you will deservedly, devastatingly fail. This series is a caricature of Cowboy Bebop, not an adaptation of it. It is a cursory understanding, if that, of the series as a whole. Watanabe voiced concerns that his consulting role was little respected, and those concerns turned out to be absolutely justified. They didn’t seem to want Cowboy Bebop. They wanted an established vehicle for a highly stylized Netflix venture. RADICAL EDWARD: There is but one victim here, and that is Eden Perkins, who was shamefully shredded over scarcely a minute of their debut as Radical Edward--which they probably hoped would be their break-out role. But instead, this thirteen year-old kid, who was very excited to have the opportunity to play such a fantastic character, was poorly directed and eviscerated by strangers, now without the opportunity to prove themselves any better. The show was cancelled, leaving Perkins to wade through all the criticism for the shortest and most impactful role of their life. What an absolute tragedy, and shame on the people who willfully disconnected themselves from the kid so they could get some heavy blows in for fun. Criticism is one thing, but the cruelty deserves a thorough, merciless shaming. If Perkins ever reads this, don’t let it get you down. Stand back up and move forward to the next thing. This doesn’t have to be your bitter swan song. You were failed by those who adapted it. You never had a chance. It wasn’t fair. THE END: I think it was a good decision to end the first season on Fallen Angels, and that episode has strong moments. The fight between Vicious and Spike actually turned out better than I expected, and the dialogue in the key moment was kept well, and even delivered pretty decently. Aside from that, the Julia twist was an absolutely nauseating disaster of a decision. A terrible idea born out of a misguided effort to concoct a culturally appealing evil queen out of a character who didn’t deserve that sort of treatment. It wasn’t properly developed, the moment came as a profoundly unwelcome surprise, and its intended narrative purpose--to end the season with Spike having no one left--is heavily overshadowed by its tone-deaf attempt to establish as many hard-ass female characters as it can manage. The story already had them, but this adaptation has no understanding of what made them so. Instead, it opts for more pageantry that isolates us from the characters rather than drawing us in toward their depths. It understands characters as icons, not people. Insofar as it understands them as people, they only mimic personality. They don’t embody the suffering of real people. The anime used down-to-earth dialogue and character development to bring a stylized sci-fi noir down to reality, with little gushing over its own superficial appeal. Netflix’s adaptation uses style as a stand-in for depth of character development and story. It spends a lot of time developing bad character stories where the original anime could poetically tell many, many character stories with precisely chosen vignettes to much greater artistic effect. Where the anime’s attention to detail was esoteric and understated, the Netflix adaptation takes every opportunity to flash itself to us, and the details are all superficial nostalgia. OVER ALL (TL/DR): This adaptation takes in the original anime superficially. It sees the style and denies the value of the substance, instead opting to supplant it with its own far less intuitive, far more superficial restructuring of the characters and story. It shoehorns in terrible expansions and reimaginings of the characters’ stories, which completely decimates the intimacy of the dysfunctional ragtag family unit of the Bebop crew. It attempts to regain this with saccharine throw-away lines and a complete misunderstanding of the value of hope in the context of this series, which only comes to this crew in relation to the bitter pasts which showrunner Andre Nemec (pictured below) vocally denied the value of--but which gives that hope weight rather than just shallow platitude. He wanted the series to be hopeful rather than dystopian, completely missing the fact that it isn’t dystopian--it’s noir. Mars is a thriving place, as are multiple places the crew finds themselves. It’s their world which is cold and hypnagogic. Their personal worlds. The lives they’ve led. More than anything else, this adaptation abandons the most important aspect of the series: the tone. It doesn’t engage in the story at its depths of psychology or philosophy, which is the only way to understand the profound value of it. They sacrificed substance for style, and threw out its meaningful struggles in favor of poppy, kitschy, edgy fluff. It doesn’t respect the source material, which Watanabe himself complained of in regards to his tertiary role as a consultant--which only seems to be credited as an obligation and for disingenuous credibility, despite Watanabe’s vocal concerns about how little his opinions seemed to be valued in adapting Cowboy Bebop. Read a quick note about that here: https://comicbook.com/anime/news/cowboy-bebop-live-action-netflix-anime-creator-comment/ The series is an unfaithful failure in the final analysis. Yoko Kanno, Mustafa Shakir, and Tamara Tunie did what they could, but it couldn’t fix a bad faith adaptation. Looking forward to owning the new music, though. See you, space cowboy.
http://www.wordforge.net/index.php?threads/cowboy-bepop-live.117685/ Merging the threads since ^this^ post had so much time put into it.
Ah, that works. Just didn't want to clog up another thread with such a long review. No worries--hope folks like it.
@Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz if you want to go through all that effort you need to note Cowboy Bebop was made in a golden age in Japan. Yes, the original dis have a defined style to it. Back then the anime industry had a number of profound artists who were able to produce their visions through dedication to their craft and as an educated producer. So you got some decent art pieces with some actual depth. You are not getting that on a netflix live action adaptation. If people were expecting that to come through onto a netflix series they were going to be very dissapointed. Instead Netflix did adapt bebop to the netflix series style pretty well. I approach it from that angle. We have the original Bebop to enjoy. However, this is pretty good for what bebop would be as a netflix series if you get where I am coming from. In the end that is not saying that is what you would want to watch.
I understand your argument, but I view things in terms of final analysis. I look at these kinds of things as matters of craft, and I'd rather not allow poor craft to pass as a matter of quantitative comparison. If we lower the standards as they lower the quality, we'll just keep getting lower quality because we allow complacency rather than acknowledging a piece of work for what it is in a true analysis of what it means to master the craft of storytelling and thematic structure. Hold it to a high standard so we get better content. Better content breeds more thoughtful viewers. The content we engage in standardizes the quality of what we consume, and the quality of what we consume standardizes the quality of our thinking. The quality of the original anime is displayed by its attention to the craft of storytelling and thematic structure, which the Netflix adaptation boiled down to superficial flash, soap, and gaudy stylization. I don't want to send the message to Netflix that this is acceptable storytelling just because we ought to lower our standards for them in general when they're perfectly capable of offering better content and better adaptations of well-crafted source material.
I do agree that the "quality" of art tends to deteriorate as "popular" producing becomes the guidance for the artist. If you go back to that time in the anime world you had a lot of artist control because the profit had yet to be realized. I do not think you could make the original bebop in today's environment because the money would not allow such depth of artistry. Bebop was an interesting thing because it intersected with a shallower fanbase who really like the action and world without giving much thought to the depth. A larger amount of the fandom for bebop did not, and could not, appreciate it on the level that you and many other critics did. That depth was completely stripped from this version, I have no argument there. Because the series is so oriented towards music and it's history and themes, I look at this as a cover of bebop by Netflix. Netflix series have a style of their own. That style is very formulaic and it generally works for producing a bunch of different series that netflix viewers like because of their elements. Like most covers this does not improve on the original the way johnny cash did with Hurt, or ELO and Manfred Mann did with Blinded by the Light. Both of those songs were amazing in their original form, but they were improved upon with the cover. In the case of Netflix Bebop it is more of just a cover that does not add anything to the original. It does strip away the original stylization and greatness and really is just a shadow of it's original form. In the end it works like most covers. Most of the fans are going to find it lacking and insulting, and the comparison with the original would hurt it. People like me are just going to find the cover interesting and harmless because we have the original to satisfy us. I have no real argument against the reality that if you loved the original on the level that you did this is probably going to make your ears and eyes bleed. I just do not see any effort made to do the depth of the original so I don't actually see a failure in that regard.
I don't appreciate it on that level. I'm in it for the risque outfits. having said that I'll go back and watch the anime series now that it's on netflix, again. Maybe I'll appreciate it more, but 3 episodes in, not so far. I'm sad there won't be a second season of the live action netflix series. Ed popping in at the end was perfect to lift up such a dreary ending.
Not an unreasonable view of things. I just tend to crave all the meaning and craft, so when something gives that to me and something else cheapens it, I generally have negative reaction to it. I think it would've likely been more successful if they'd just made a separate series with these actors and vague story arcs. They changed enough that it wouldn't have seemed too much like Bebop if they ditched the names, outfits, and general conceit.
If you're in it for the superficial throw-away stuff, you probably won't like the original any more than you did back then. Best you'll get is some action scenes. There are other anime to cover stuff like overt action, sex appeal, etc. Lots of it, honestly, if you're not really looking for depth. Bebop is more storytelling craft and genre style, although it does have its gratuitous Faye shots.
This is where Bebop ends up being a superior work to others. Outlaw Star is often compared to bebop, and if you look at that title it is a somewhat similar space adventure with a ragtag bunch of characters on a ship. Outlaw star has none of the music and art styling Bebop has. It is just a sort of space western that is a fun watch. The episodic nature of the anime bebop makes it a real easy watch for anyone. You can throw it on, it is exciting, and the episode plot is quick. If you do not care for the episode you can skip to the next one without really missing much in the series arc. Faye and Ed are just anime tropes. They are given backstory because it would be too obvious to just have jiggly boobs and a rando child character. The only purpose for the two of them is to throw in the trope because anime fans want the fanservice character, and they want the spasmatic loud kid character. In the netflix version Faye is one of the improved characters. She is no longer some jiggling boobs with a backstory. In the anime version I always wondered why Spike and Jet bothered keeping faye around. She is a lazy drain on resources who really does not bring in any advantage in partnering up. In the Netflix version she is much more valuable. Anime has done much better moe characters with a purpose than Faye. Her character design is something I am used to in anime, but it is cringe as hell. If you compare her to someone like Naga the Serpent from the Slayers series, from back in that time, you see how useless and pointless Faye is. Naga the serpent is all boobs and sex appeal, but she also can do things and becomes a part of the OVAs and movies of slayers. IMO Ed was going to be a complete disaster to the new series. I love the ed character in most anime, but it is a character that ends up turning a lot of people off. It is a trope, and Ed's arc can be pulled out of the series without much damage at all. Even Faye could be pulled after you resolve her initial introduction without doing much to the series arc overall. Having seen the way anime relies on moe and tropes I find it very hard to believe the characters of Ed and Faye were put in as art first and then adapted to the tropes. I feel they were more included as tropes which were simply adapted to the overall vision of the series. Faye is so over the top sexual eye candy that she does not even get cosplayed that much. There is just no redeeming that outfit as comfortable or enjoyable to wear. When Chi has a moment in cosplay being one of the most blatant moe sex objects ever , and faye cannot get a moment that tells you that outfit is for male eyecandy alone.
It was a nice ride while it lasted. I got a bit tired of the blond chick. And Spike's mooning for her. Wanted more Ein. I'm looking forward to the anime episode where something goes reeeeeal bad in the fridge. Why is this the only one I remember?
I finished it this weekend. Overall I enjoyed it, and it's a shame it got canceled, but I agree that it doesn't hold up to the original. The weakest part was the Vicious and Julia side plot. The actor who played Jet nailed the role. And he had great chemistry with John Cho. I hope to see Mustafa Shakir in more roles.
