What does *positive* masculinity look like?

You have questionable judgement.

And by posting it you seek validation.

It is OK to christians when their people touch children. It is ok to republicans when their creeps touch children. It is obviously just joe when he fondles and sniffs young girls.

Now please do STFU you fucking trump supporting, republican, chomo excuse artist. Oh, and stop projecting your child rape fantasies on trans people.

federal fucking creep.

This is 100% true. Biden is touchy, feely, creepy around women and children. People can say he's just old fashioned, and that may be so if I'm feeling generous to believe such a thing, but it doesn't change that he has no right to do this, and that his handlers are incompetent, because he has been warned about it to keep his hands to himself. He would be a terrible example of positive masculinity.

Before anyone else says anything, Donald Trump's a fucking creep, too. One does not mitigate the actions of the other. Hell, Trump walked into a room full of half naked girls and commented on how great they looked, so fuck him, too.

We deserve SO much better than these people.

As I said, one does not mitigate the actions of the other. They're both creepy fucks who put their hands where they don't belong, and people make excuses for them. You can look at both of them and call them flaming piles of horseshit, and you'd still be correct.

The biden Bros lose their shit much more than the trumpistas when you point out Trump's creepy behavior. Trump trying to rape women in dressing rooms, fondling his daughter in pictures, and talking about wandering into changing rooms to grab women by the pussy got a lot of shrugs from the right. Most of the right just sort of accepts their politicians doing it while the biden bros melt down when you call him out for his molestation of people. I get that republicans are more participants in child molestation while the dems are just really complicit and cover up for their molesters.

I have a hard time deciding which is worse.

It was a joke.

I would like to add New Jersey Senator Cory Booker to this list.

Neil Armstrong
Buzz Aldrin
That other guy

We can’t lump everyone together in one package. You may view Biden’s actions as creepy, but just because you see it that way from your own eyes and your own experiences doesn’t mean that is the way the individual intended those actions.

I was raised by parents born in the 1930s and came of age in the 1950s. At that time, society was just beginning the “boys don’t kiss boys” thinking. Fathers can kiss their daughters, but not their sons. My older brother, born in 1959 still displays this same behavior. He has many grandkids. He loves them all. But, he does dote on and kiss his granddaughters, but will “shake hands” or pat the head of his grandsons.

I don’t know Biden’s intentions. But, before accusing someone, get to know that person or the “victim”.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but Biden's actions go beyond just old fashioned affection and these girls aren't his grandchildren.

What makes you think his actions go beyond that? Based on what you see? Based on what right wing outlets show you? And yes, I say right wing outlets because that appears to be where you get all your ideas. I’ve yet to see you post anything proposed or said by a liberal in a positive light.

Based on my own two eyes.

Based on your own interpretations of what you see vs what is in your head on how people should behave. Unless you know and have known Biden personally and why he does those things, then you have no idea what his intentions are.

This is also why people can look at other people’s children and see absolute horrific children, but their parents think they are angels. The parent sees what the child has been through. A random adult only see what is happening in that vacuum.

If you don't think what Biden does around underage girls (never mind grown women) is creepy, then I'm afraid to know what you do think is creepy.

I wouldn't have him grabbing on me or anyone I knew. No elaborate mental contortionism required there.

Shockwave could see better than you after Arcee shot him in the face.

It has nothing to do with what I think is creepy. You are turning this exchange into something it isn’t. I was not defending his actions. I very often talk about shooting up my workplace, going postal, and even had a miniature plastic replica of a super soaker that I would point at and pretend to shoot other drivers who pissed me off. Are any of those actions wrong - probably every one. But, I am very anti-violence. The point was, you aren’t perfect, so shut the fuck up.

I'm not perfect therefore I'm not allowed to have an opinion on Creepy/Sleepy Joe?

Basically, just do the opposite of Uncle Albert and you'll be in good stead.

The point is, despite his decades in office, and his consistent “creepy” behavior, there has never been any substantiated claims of wrong doing. Unlike others who exhibit the same behavior but do have substantiated claims of wrongdoing.

IOW, bitch about his policy all you want, but behavior you dislike is not an indictment.

I don’t think he’s done anything wrong, I just find it creepy.it’s not a good look.

Biden agrees, has stated that he shouldn't be as affectionate as he is as some people might not understand, and has promised to alter his behavior. To my understanding he has done so.

Which goes back to positive masculinity. It's not fragile or needs to be dominant or be right all the time. It looks at itself and tries to do better.

Night and day with the other guy.