The Don't Say Gay bill

Oh, I know this one:

Who is @Chaos Descending ?

I have been clear on what I want, and you are determined to slippery-slope it into something it is not. There is nothing unreasonable about refraining from discussing sexuality with fucking kindergarteners. In no way does that compare to denying sick kids medical care or whatever bullshit false equivalence you feel like attempting.

Guess what? They don't need to fucking hear that either. They should be learning arithmetic and the alphabet, history and handwriting, the food pyramid and the importance of exercise. I had one or two teachers bitching about their hetero love lives, and it was out of fucking line to do that in class.

And has been beaten across your rocky Ben Grimm head repeatedly, no one's whipping out the dildos and rubber asses.
It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
And as Tafkats has said, saying Bobby has a mommy and Daddy is discussing sexual orientation.

God, you're a fucking mess.
A perpetually angry man demanding everyone else be a Vulcan.
Your personality chip was given to you as a cruel joke.
Whose dog did you run over?

And like I said, that personal bullshit has no place in class.

You are never going to find the combination of words to make it sound reasonable to discuss gender identity or anything related to sexuality, with kindergarteners.

Y'know what?
In High School, I had an art teacher who's wife openly had a side-piece, and had him living with them.
He found every opportunity to squeeze the phrase "horns of the cuckhold" into the conversation.
Y'know what I did?
This .

I was in Kindergarten when my teacher took several weeks off for her honeymoon and came back with a new name. We knew she got married. It’s not unusual or uncommon for teachers to discuss their private lives. Nor is unreasonable. What’s unreasonable is expecting teachers to not discuss their lives like normal people do.

More false equivalence. High school versus elementary.

And your teacher was out of line regardless. I don't know what it is about that profession that attracts petty little fucks who think a classroom full of kids is a good place to dump their personal baggage and grievances with the world.

What exactly do you think this is?
Every time you say it, you say it like it's dirty, so....what image is in your head?

I disagree.

Why did you tell your boss about me and my visit?

Why don't we just skip to the part where you ignore what I say and make up your own clumsy hack strawman?

My boss is not a teacher and I am not a student.

And I do happen to think it's unprofessional for people to bring their personal bullshit to work. Someone starts going on about shit like that and I tune out after about 30 seconds. Likewise with religion and politics.

Your surrender is accepted.
My Marshall Plan re-construction team will be over to replace all your Ayn Rand books with "Anti-racist Baby".

I generally tune out other people when they start talking about their personal lives as well. But, people do it. It comes up in conversation.

Teacher: I’ll be taking off the next two weeks. Mr./Mrs. XXX will be teaching you until I return.
Child: Where are you going?
Teacher: None of your fucking business.

It’s harder than it sounds to evade mentioning your gayness in casual conversation at work, but I could live with the demand that you not bring up your personal life in any way to young children. At the end of the day, you are in a position to redirect the conversation as you see fit. I think it’s a lot harder to avoid talking about the kids’ family situations. All a kindergartner knows is their family. They literally have no other point of reference for most things. They talk about their occupations, etc. At some point, it WILL come up that someone has two dads, two moms, a single parent, raised by their grandparents, etc.

Prior to Covid, my company worked with the local schools and looked for volunteers to teach mini junior achievement courses. The first one I did was an all day event for fourth graders. The second one I did was a half day for younger students - 1st or 2nd grade. Now …, I’m not a teacher by profession, but being in that situation twice, I have a renewed respect for teachers. I did not make it through either lesson because kids will be kids and conversations happen organically and cannot be as easily stifled as one might imagine. I also have two children of my own and have many nieces and nephews.

Kids are not servants or employees. They will ask questions and do not deserve to be shut down just because an adult doesn’t feel like talking about a subject.

In a perfect world, sure. But, humans are not part of that world.

So what does it do, then?

It makes you suck @Tuttle ’s balls.

So you got nothin....

Ok, props for the witty repartie, but do give us your full interpretation of what the bill does, please.

An Uno reverse card? Wow!! Draw two balls and suck on them my dude.

@Federal Farmer

I’m not answering hypothetical questions.

It’s not hypothetical. It’s a valid question in response to your statement.

You don't even know what happens in that situation.

You tell 5 year olds "my sister is transgender" and if they don't know what that means, and ask, you say "when they were born they seemed to be a boy but they realized they feel like they are really a girl and want us to see them that way" and INEVITABLY the kid says? "Really? Cool!"and goes on about their day. Kids GET IT - instinctively. A few of them ARE trans and are relieved to learn the people around them don't think their weird.

It's adults who have been acculturated to be bigots, and those of any age who enjoy being bullies, that make an issue of it.

bigots out here claiming something is being "imposed" on kids - the only thing being imposed on any kid is hatefulness by adults imposing on LGBT kids the obligation to stay in the closet or suffer the consequences of disapproving culture. It's bigotry that gets imposed on kids, not the other way around.

As all of us who grew up in a hateful culture and STILL knew who and what we were can testify. Assholes like you need to stay in your goddamn lane and remain silent when you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

It's not a hypothetical, it's an example of the sort of thing potentially covered in this bill.