The Republican Speakership battle

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    These are the demands you make before the shutdown. If McCarthy doesn’t agree, then you shutdown the government, if he still doesn’t agree then you call for a vote to vacate and hold up the process as long as it takes until the demands are met.
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    Something, something, gumption, something, something, bootstraps.
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    Something, something shut the fuck up, moron.
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    Borrow UA's Gatling gun, and make me.
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    Get back to me when you actually have an opinion on something and not just your clown routine.
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    After three weeks and $10B in damage to the US Budget and hundreds of billions to the entire economy five of the twenty one Rs elected in Biden districts decide they don’t want to go down with the ship even if McCarthy has allowed the crazies to take over.

    They join the Ds in a Discharge Petition that follows the Fiscal Responsibility act of 2023 (aka THE LAW) in terms of base 2024 and 2025 spending.

    Bill goes to conference, spending levels end up higher as the Senate has added additional appropriations both for Hurricane Relief and Ukraine.

    Where does your Theory of Victory go from here?

    What was the benefit of this stunt for the American people?
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    Everything turns personal when you don’t have an argument.
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    I took a principled stand and I get to fund raise and call for primarieing the turncoat douche bags. Then I start the process all over again until it fucking works because I’m in SC and I’m not going anywhere. I’m the motherfucker that just wants to watch the world burn.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    You could have just said yes, your plan is just keep fucking up harder and harder until finally… *something* different happens…

    (You are aware of the definition of insanity right?)
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    UA is such a Nazi, he thinks Critical Drinker is comedy gold, and that Ragnar Redbeard is a proper philosopher.
    There, just in case.
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    Everyone loves the status quo and Bidenomics is working.
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    Matt Gaetz is a bitch-ass child.
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    I must agree, WTF is a subway sammich maker doing talking about mortgage rates? Talk about way out of your pay grade.

    This is what happens when I pick out a Faceman point in the middle of everyone owning @Steal Your Face again.

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    @Ancalagon like this :bergman:
    Phase 1: Shutdown the Government
    Phase 2: Blame Democrats
    Phase 3: “Serious cuts in spending, a freeze on future spending, a balanced budget and no more continuing resolutions and an independent commission to look at entitlement programs, particularly Social Security for higher income earners and an option to opt out with a refund.”
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    It's a smart thing to ask for. However, it's debatable how much bargaining power Democrats will have in the "to avert a shutdown" scenario.

    If McCarthy needs their votes to save his speakership, then it's basically a matter of "hey, this is your problem and we can either help you or not, your choice." If it's to avert a shutdown, Democrats have less bargaining power because everyone knows they don't want to shut down the government and tank the economy. (Republicans, of course, do.)
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    Yep.

    I think it is both an opening bid AND directed at the Problem Solver and New Democrat Coalition folks more than McCarthy:

    Don’t be making some grand bargain that is both a budget AND promising to support McCarthy in the future. That isn’t necessary, we have a plan. So when you try and claim you ‘had to vote for McCarthy’ next primary we’ll have the receipts.
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  24. Ancalagon

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    NEWS: Freedom Caucus members are plotting to oust Kevin McCarthy as House speaker as early as next week. If they’re successful, they already know who to nominate as his replacement: Majority Whip Tom Emmer. A newsy scoop w/ the indefatigable @LACaldwellDC

    https://x.com/mariannareports/status/1707550783305117850
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I wonder how different US politics would be if the rule of the government being unable to function triggering elections was a thing there.
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  26. Fisherman's Worf

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    I wonder if there are just enough democrats from safe districts who could be persuaded (bribed?) by Jefferies to support McCarthy or maybe there are "moderates" who might want to be able to brag about being able to "work across the aisle" for the "good of the country". McCarthy showed he was willing to pay any price to get the speakership, let's see how far he's willing to go to hang on to it a little longer.
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  28. Ancalagon

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    After meeting with House Republicans this evening, it’s clear the misguided Senate bill has no path forward and is dead on arrival.

    The House will continue to work around the clock to keep government open and prioritize the needs of the American people.

    https://x.com/speakermccarthy/status/1707932098856685894
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    New: @GOPMajorityWhip telling House Republicans there is no path for a CR, no 14 day, no 30 day, no 45 day, there are six no’s on any CR

    https://x.com/bresreports/status/1708114791657566468

    Looks like it is time to peel this discussion into its own Republican Government Shutdown thread.
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  30. Ancalagon

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    /12 Lots of members calling for a clean CR.

    @lawler4ny said “Primary me, I don’t care” and that he would work with Democrats to keep the government funded.

    /13 Lawler (Not an exact quote):

    “We were elected to lead, not be a bunch of jackasses.”

    https://x.com/bresreports/status/1708125297894170858
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