Judge rules illegal immigrants have gun rights protected by 2nd Amendment

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Done.
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  2. Steal Your Face

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    So they don’t have to adhere to federal laws, but they still have to abide by state laws.
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    And if state laws don't require private sellers (or those at gun shows) to do background checks, while gun stores do, what's that?
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    Actually, it isn't. It is a well known way people who want a gun can easily get one without a lengthy search, and is also a big way for straw purchases.

    As a convicted felon I can easily go down to any state gun show and buy a gun. This is because CT does a shit job of updating databases outside of their state and therefor a quick background check does not bring up any record. You would have to spend a couple of days to get an electronic report which queries CT databases to get my record. That cannot be done in a day at a gun show, and the slim background checks are shit because the states do not do a good job of updating the db that gun vendors at gun shows use. Even gun shows do not query every state's prison records unless they are forced to do heavier background checks.

    You are wrong. Maybe you believe lying ass guntards who make claims the background checks are good enough, but gun show vendors do not have time to do proper background checks, and the states do not fully update all DBs. The ones gun dealers use are not the same ones law enforcement always updates. Not to mention court clerks are notoriously shitty at doing their job, so sometimes they do not update records properly.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    When you can drive up the road and get a gun there are no restrictions if you are not going through customs inspections. There is no one at the border checking if you cross with a gun. New Jersey has open gun shows right across the border from NYC. You could use the train system if you did not have a car.
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  6. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    apparently not
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    This is all out of date so who knows if it applies. Like older than FF out of date.

    Used to be all all Gun Shows in Washington were run by WAC, Washington Arms Collectors, it was a kinda state level guns rights group, a gun show runner and local gun news (like they would send you a physical newsletter every month IN THE TEENS!) group.

    To buy at a Gun Show you had to be a WAC member. To be a WAC member you had to pass a Federal Firearms Background Check. At least back in ‘07 this couldn’t be done day of. You could apply for membership at the show, get it in a couple weeks and you could buy ammo and accessories that day but no guns.

    First time I went to a show here in Washington I didn’t know that.

    Thankfully the guy selling the used Smith & Wesson J-frame that was the right price and what I was interested in helpfully informed me that as long as I went to that ATM over there and got the cash (no card) he could get his buddy to watch his table and he could walk to my car and sell it to me there but I had to either leave or hide it in my trunk, couldn’t bring it in without WAC membership.
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  8. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    FF is allowed to date?

    has anybody had "the talk" with him yet?
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    Only in terms of his history degree.
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    That in order to comply with Megan’s Law…?
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It would be pretty stupid to sell a gun to someone who you don’t know.
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  12. Tuckerfan

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    And this is America, where people can make a good living off of being stupid. So, you know, something that lots and lots of people do.
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  13. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    You know it's been about 12 years now, that I've been singin' this dumb song
    You know it's amazin', it's amazin' that somebody can get away with singin' a song this dumb for that long

    But you know, hey you know what's more amazin' than that is that, uh somebody can make a livin' singin' a song this dumb

    But that's America.
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    What are you gonna say to the cops:

    Uh… middle aged white guy, brown hair, mustache, bit on the short tubby side selling guns at a gun show.

    Not exactly like we posed for a photo op at handoff while he held two forms of government ID and his grandma was there saying ‘Yep, that’s my Ronald, always selling parking lot guns at gun shows.” THE WHOLE NOT BEING ABLE TO TRACE BUYER OR SELLER IS THE FUCKING POINT! THAT’S THE LOOPHOLE IN GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE YOU FUCKING MORON!
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    In dude’s defense I was a white 25 yo Infantryman (with the haircut and CAC Card [Common Access Card Card] to prove it) fresh back from Iraq and both willing to try and talk my way into things and to flash my military ID if necessary. I don’t remember that being required but again, this was back before some folks in this thread were even born. For my memory ‘07 is a long time ago.
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    I thought you needed an anthro, archaeo, or geology degree for carbon dating...? :unsure:
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  17. Steal Your Face

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    And what happens when the illegal immigrant tries to register the gun?
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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Do WHAT now? :lol:
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    For real man. LEARN A GOD DAMN THING BEFORE YOU ARGUE ABOUT IT.

    YOU SUPPOSEDLY AREN’T A CHILD SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO REFLEXIVELY ARGUE WITH AUTHORITY FIGURES.

    With that dumbass statement I’m gonna guess I own more gun safes** than the number of guns your little bitch ass suburban rich boy eyes have ever seen.

    I honestly don’t know how many guns I own but I would guess 2.5-3.5 dozen would be 90% accurate one side or the other.

    Guess the number* of the ones I registered or even needed to register?

    *I’ll help you out a bit by saying that apparently you kids and your TikToks are currently arguing over whether zero is a number and I fall very much on the zero is a number side.

    **to be clear I own a lot of onesies. I got kids. So I don’t keep anything out. Garage gun (I got a lot of tools and work with the door open most times) onesie, door gun, onesie, bedside tables, onesies.
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    I own around the same number and not a one is registered. :lol:

    All the ones that weren't gifts or inherited were bought from dealers, though. I've never done a private sale because I prefer to buy new.

    IIRC, FF doesn't own a gun at all.
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    So what are the rules in Texas, do you have to pass a background check, show ID, etc..?
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    From a dealer?

    Show ID, fill out a form, and pass a background check. No registration.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Just to be clear, I don’t have a problem with illegals having the right to own guns, I’m working towards something.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    How many guns have you registered and what was the process?
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    There you go, fixed that for you. :D
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    is it still a "gotcha" if you announce it's coming in advance?

    just make or fake the point already so we can get to poking holes in it.
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    That and graduating high school in three or so years? Those are some big aspirations for a sammich jockey.