2016 Presidential Election Thread

It could be, but the problem with April Fool's these days is that even obvious pranks have a way of coming back and biting you on the ass later on.

As if Rand Paul has any chance of becoming a viable candidate without a radical overhaul in his policies and his personality in the future.

You're assuming he recognizes that fact. I'm 100% certain he doesn't.

Quite true. Libertarians always seem completely confused by the fact that hardly anybody rallies to their cause.

Bernie's supporters just started emulating that to make fun of Donnie.

Gary Johnson was on Penn's Sunday School last week, and I was stunned at how much he just kept repeating meaningless buzz phrases. Seriously, I expected him to say things that I disagreed with, but I didn't expect the sum total of his arguments to be limited to "freedom" and "liberty," which they were. I'm not kidding. Instead of saying how he expected this or that to work, he just responded with "We'll have more freedom if I'm President." or "We need more liberty." Nothing about how his policies would provide either, or even what his policies generally were.

You just described every libertarian ever.

I forgot to mention, but obviously, I also hate the Constitution and the founding fathers

As you have demonstrated several times.

That's certainly the libertarian view. But it's easy enough for anybody to toss about such claims.

Not surprised one bit. Lots of people have libertarian leanings for their own lives, but don't want to extend that freedom to others if they can use government power to make them behave as they like.

I believe most people are libertarian minded, but the two parties have done everything the CSM to keep the libertarian party from participating and a lot of people aren't familiar with libertarian principles and what the party stands for.

And Bernie is probably the worst when it comes to matching with libertarian ideas. Sure, when it comes to foreign adventures (remember when Obama was the anti-war candidate?) or civil rights (aside from, e.g., having your choice of deodorants) he's OK, but it's more a case of a blind hen finding a seed than having a freedom-loving ideology.

Sanders' philosophy just doesn't jive with libertarian principles, he wants some of the same things, but wants the government to either provide them or have the government force you into accomplishing his goals. That's very antithetical to the concept of liberty and free will.

Sanders sees only one solution, he can't grasp the concept that there's more than one way to skin a cat.

And you're doing an excellent job of explaining the sterility of the "libertarian" POV.

"We're not the other guy. The other guy's got nothin'. We got stuff. Lotsa stuff. Liberty, freedom, and name-calling anyone who doesn't agree with us. That kind of stuff."

But you don't understand Libertarian policies. Right now you only have about 73% Liberty. If we elected Libertarians you would have 85 to 90% Liberty. That's 13 to 18% more Liberty. I'd explain their stand on Freedom but it's expressed in fractions, and I know how you'll hate calculating the move from 47/64ths Freedom to 27/32nds Freedom.

I have to admit I'd be very shocked if Rand Paul came out in support of Bernie Sanders.

I highly doubt he will.

Daily Mail article

'The pizza came scalding hot so I used a little fork': John Kasich explains why he committed the ultimate New York faux pas when faced with a slice


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That's a regular size fork, not a "little" one, and the application of a fork doesn't significantly affect the temperature of pizza. Maybe he should've used an ice cube instead.

Yep, Rusty and Prufrock have proven the point marvelously. And they genuinely don't know why nobody votes for it.

Course I do. You want to use government to force people to do your bidding, like fund your retirement and health care. You've convinced yourself that it's right and good, even when the reality is an unsustainable clusterfuck. The idea that individuals might know what's best for themselves better than a bureaucracy, and that they innovate and thrive better when free to choose, is a dangerous foreign concept even though it underlies our social and technological progress. Why would short-sighted people vote for the guy who's merely making a stand to protect you from force and fraud, while all the others are promising to take care of all your needs?

@garamet, you forgot to mention their need to make shit up about what others have said.

Jayzus, Pruf didn't just drink the Randroid Kool-Aid, he had it pumped into all of his holes with a swimming pool fill-up truck.
He's been a real drag since then too, he used to be interesting, capable of humor, now he's just a dogmatist.

Rand Paul’s ‘Yuge’ April 1 Endorsement Is a Prank


Toldja so.

CommonDreams.org story

Hillary Clinton’s Support Among Nonwhite Voters Has Collapsed

On February 27th, Hillary Clinton led Bernie Sanders among African-American voters by 52 points.

By March 26th, she led Sanders among African-Americans by just nine points.

And on Thursday, Public Policy Polling, a widely respected polling organization, released apoll showing that Sanders leads Clinton among African-American voters in Wisconsin by 11 points.

It’s all part of a dramatic national trend that has seen Clinton’s support among nonwhite voters dwindle to well under a third of what it was just a month ago — not nearly enough support to carry her, as it did throughout the Deep South, to future electoral victories in the Midwest and Northeast.​

And the media has so far ignored it. Lots more details at the link.

well, not like that was his most fertile ground anyway.

Paul does April Fools big every year, actually