2016 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. gturner

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    Without exit polling it will be hard to learn much of anything about Arizona's vote. But then the early voters don't get exit polled anyway. Heck, even Fiorina got over a thousand votes. It's like having a state vote in February but not announcing the results till April.
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    Cruz is winning by 70% or so in Utah. This may doom him given that Glenn Beck says Cruz is the fulfillment of Mormon prophesy. Yes, the rest of use did drive the Mormons there because they were a big bucket of crazy. Extremely nice, but nuts. Trump could roll his eyes or raise his eyebrows at Cruz's Utah victory and we'll all get the message. Yesterday Beck was saying Cruz lost in the South because Southerners weren't listening to God. Yeah Cruz, ride the crazy pony to the second coming.
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    They should run who ever their voters select.
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  4. gturner

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    Last night in Arizona, Utah, and Idaho, Sanders won 67 delegates and Hillary won 51.

    Trump won 58 and Cruz won 40.
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    Glenn Beck has a major substance abuse history doesn't he?
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    No, what they would be admitting the presidency is lost and desperately trying to save the Senate; I. E. their own butts.
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  8. gturner

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    But based on recent polling, 27 percent of Republicans said they wouldn't bother to vote if Trump is blocked. The establishment is really boxed in at this point. If the Tea Party or other groups had any sense, they'd have run their own insurgencies based on Trump's coattails to try to bump out some of the GOP old guard. A really smart candidate running against an incumbent Democrat would do well to gamble on cross-over Trump support and run against both party establishments.
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    Bernie crushed Hillary in Alaska and Washington state, and might do the same in Hawaii. The Hawaiian results will probably roll in a bit after midnight Eastern time.
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    On one hand it doesn't matter because Clinton is just crushing Bernie in total delegates.

    On the other hand the fact that he keeps winning shows up her campaign is not as strong as it pretends to be. She's got some real problems connecting with the entire Democrat base. Bernie isn't just picking up the dumb college kids vote. He's got plenty of the base voting for him as well.
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  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  13. gturner

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    Kasich in New York trying to eat a pizza:

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  14. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    ^ :doh:

    Any respect I may have had for the man just evaporated. He grew up near Pittsburgh, fer cryin' out loud! He may not know how to fold it like a NYer, but at least pick it up! :jayzus:
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    How do people not know to fold pizza? I'm not from New York and I do it. It's not rocket science. :shrug:
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  16. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    The only excuse for not folding it lies with a slice that is too small, or has crust too thick.

    These, you don't fold:

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    These, you fold:

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    That slice Kasich is forking, it should be folded!
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  17. Tuckerfan

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    Rand Paul has an an announcement to make tomorrow. Seems to be something involving Sanders.

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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If I thought Rand Paul had a sense of humor, and if he were to endorse Bernie tomorrow, I'd be very suspicious. :chris:
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    He's probably just upset that his name hasn't appeared in print in the last two months.
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  20. Tuckerfan

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    Well, he wouldn't be the first Libertarian-type to indicate leanings towards Sanders.
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  21. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Wow, it certainly looks like an endorsement is pending. Will the five people who voted for Paul fell the Bern?
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  22. gturner

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    The question is how his delegate will vote. :shrug:

    Meanwhile Rubio refuses to release his delegates in the first round to keep them from voting as they see fit, to make sure they don't contribute to Trump's total.
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    Of course, Trump also says yuge, so....
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  24. Tuckerfan

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    I can't see Rand endorsing Trump, or really Bernie, but we'll find out tomorrow.
  25. Ancalagon

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    Interesting.

    A while back I booked marked this article, to come back and write a 'Did Bernie Sanders steal Rand Paul's oxygen' but forgot:

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-young-democrats-love-bernie-sanders/

    What socialists and libertarians have in common

    Just as “socialism” is becoming more popular with young Americans, so is another label that implies a highly different set of economic policies. Americans aged 18-29 are much more likely than older generations to have a favorable view of the term “libertarian,” referring to a philosophy that favors free markets and small government. Indeed, the demographics of Sanders’s support now and Ron Paul’s support four years ago are not all that different: Both candidates got much more support from younger voters than from older ones, from men than from women, from white voters than from nonwhite ones, and from secular voters than from religious ones. Like Sanders, Paul drew more support from poorer voters than from wealthier ones in 2012, although that’s not true of libertarianism more generally.4
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    They could have skipped all the verbiage and called it the pothead vote or the bong base.
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    The more I think about it the more it makes sense. There is a large overlap between 'Issues Rand and Bernie agree on' (military, personal privacy, limiting power of big finance) and 'Issues president actually has large amount of control over'. Whereas their strong differences on economic issues are in areas that the president has little control over.

    However that's awfully ballsy. Kentucky Rs aren't that bright (if our's is anything to go by) so doubt they would be able to grasp that kind of subtlety.
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  28. tafkats

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    Me neither, especially at this point in the campaign, but I can TOTALLY see him using an endorsement for an April Fools gag.
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  29. gturner

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  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Ahem. Gentlemen, may I remind you of the date tomorrow? I call bullshit.
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