2016 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Ben Carson's Rap Campaign ad. What will the clown car do next? I used to wish for the republican party to go away, and now I cannot get enough of them.
     
  2. mburtonk

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  3. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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  4. gturner

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    More shady business dealings from the Clinton Foundation. Why on Earth are they running a bizarre private equity firm in Colombia, and where does the money go?
     
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Jesus Christ, you guys are desperate. The Clinton Foundation is an international charity which has nothing to do with the campaign so of course they are involved in foreign investment.
     
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  6. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Half correct; so, much better than usual for you !

    [FYI, no impact on anarchy.]
     
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  7. gturner

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    I didn't know most charities ran private equity firms seeking Colombian business deals, much less mafia type deals where the high-growth companies have to sign non-disclosure agreements and turn over all their financial and internal information to the Clintons in perpetuity. But I guess that's normal for the 0.001% who are above the law.
     
  8. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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  9. gturner

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    A liberal writer caught a lot of flack for saying "that's the second time he's quit a race."

    Racism is only okay when Democrats express it, or something.
     
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  10. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    How is it racist to point out he quit, changed his mind, and then quit a second time?
     
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  11. gturner

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    He didn't quit twice. They were talking about how he quit the Indian race - as in declared himself to be a white man, which he is.
     
  12. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    It's clear from his official portrait that he's indeed white.
     
  13. gturner

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    A bunch of liberal pundits tried to boot him out, making a huge dust up before they found out that Aryans are, sure enough, Aryans. :lol:
     
  14. gturner

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    And Hillary's fascism keeps shining thorugh (Judicial watch link)

    In what appears to be a first for a serious presidential contender, Hillary Clinton’s campaign is going after five comedians who made fun of the former Secretary of State in standup skits at a popular Hollywood comedy club.

    A video of the short performance, which is less than three minutes, is posted on the website of the renowned club, Laugh Factory, and the Clinton campaign has tried to censor it. Besides demanding that the video be taken down, the Clinton campaign has demanded the personal contact information of the performers that appear in the recording. This is no laughing matter for club owner Jamie Masada, a comedy guru who opened Laugh Factory more than three decades ago and has been instrumental in launching the careers of many famous comics. “They threatened me,” Masada told Judicial Watch. “I have received complains before but never a call like this, threatening to put me out of business if I don’t cut the video.”

    No, a political candidate doesn't get to threaten businesses and demand the names and personal details about comedians. This is not North Korea or East Germany - yet. This woman cannot be allowed in any position of public power.
     
  15. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I can hear gturner squeal from 3,000 miles away. "HILLAREEEEEEE!!!11!"
     
  16. gturner

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    Yeah, I guess fascism seems great when your side is doing it. If any Republican candidate ever did they would tell him to shove it up his ass and his campaign would come to an abrupt end.
     
  17. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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  18. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    "On the contrary, sir. I think of this project as very important. It is you I take lightly."
     
  19. gturner

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    And getting back to Fascism:

    Politico story on Sanders

    Bernie Sanders sought to wrap himself in the mantle of Franklin D. Roosevelt on Thursday afternoon, seeding a long-anticipated speech about his brand of democratic socialism with references to the successful efforts by the New Deal architect — who has also featured in Hillary Clinton’s campaign — to end the Great Depression.

    “Against the ferocious opposition of the ruling class of his day, people he called economic royalists, Roosevelt implemented a series of programs that put millions of people back to work, took them out of poverty, and restored our faith in government. He redefined the relationship of the federal government to the people of our nation. He combatted cynicism, fear and despair. He reinvigorated democracy. He transformed the country, and that is what we have to do today,” said the Vermont senator, an independent who caucuses with Democrats while identifying as a democratic socialist.

    And, by the way, almost everything he proposed, almost every program, every idea, was called ’socialist.'"

    And almost every program was eventually struck down as unconstitutional. Almost as bad, almost every program was an abject failure that deepened and lengthened the Great Depression. Every country in the world recovered years before the US did.

    And of course there's another point Sanders overlooks.

    Critics of Roosevelt's New Deal often liken it to fascism. Roosevelt's numerous defenders dismiss this charge as reactionary propaganda; but as Wolfgang Schivelbusch makes clear, it is perfectly true. Moreover, it was recognized to be true during the 1930s, by the New Deal's supporters as well as its opponents.

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    The Nazi press enthusiastically hailed the early New Deal measures: America, like the Reich, had decisively broken with the "uninhibited frenzy of market speculation." The Nazi Party newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, "stressed 'Roosevelt's adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies,' praising the president's style of leadership as being compatible with Hitler's own dictatorial Führerprinzip" (p. 190).

    Nor was Hitler himself lacking in praise for his American counterpart. He "told American ambassador William Dodd that he was 'in accord with the President in the view that the virtue of duty, readiness for sacrifice, and discipline should dominate the entire people. These moral demands which the President places before every individual citizen of the United States are also the quintessence of the German state philosophy, which finds its expression in the slogan "The Public Weal Transcends the Interest of the Individual"'" (pp. 19-20). A New Order in both countries had replaced an antiquated emphasis on rights.

    Mussolini, who did not allow his work as dictator to interrupt his prolific journalism, wrote a glowing review of Roosevelt's Looking Forward. He found "reminiscent of fascism … the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices"; and, in another review, this time of Henry Wallace's New Frontiers, Il Duce found the Secretary of Agriculture's program similar to his own corporativism (pp. 23-24).

    Roosevelt never had much use for Hitler, but Mussolini was another matter. "'I don't mind telling you in confidence,' FDR remarked to a White House correspondent, 'that I am keeping in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman'" (p. 31). Rexford Tugwell, a leading adviser to the president, had difficulty containing his enthusiasm for Mussolini's program to modernize Italy: "It's the cleanest … most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious" (p. 32, quoting Tugwell).

    Like many from the 60's, Bernie has no idea what he's talking about.
     
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  20. Bickendan

    Bickendan Custom Title Administrator Faceless Mook Writer

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  21. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Careful, now. You only have so much energy to devote to your disinformation campaign. If you divide your attention between HILLAREEEEEEE!!!11! and Bernie, you won't be able to stay the course.

    But it's funny that you're taking Bernie seriously now.
     
  22. gturner

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    I'm not taking either one seriously as a candidate because neither has a chance, nor does O'Malley. For some reason all the electable Democrats were afraid of running against Hillary, probably because she's an amoral, power-mad, billionaire witch who would destroy them, their reputations, and their families. How does a public servant end up getting $3 billion dollars, anyway? Isn't that supposed to happen only in corrupt third world kleptocracies?
     
  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    But here you are going on and on and on and...
     
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  25. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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  26. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    If any Democrat politician said this, it would be a non-stop circus on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and other rags.
     
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  27. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    When a Democrat makes such a statement, it's because they want to take our freedom. When a Republican says the same, it's because they want to protect our freedom.
     
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  28. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    :doh:

    Of course!!
     
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  30. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I thought hiding under the bed whimpering "HILLAREEEE!" was Bill's ongoing problem?
     
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