2018 Midterm Elections

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  1. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    this whole midterm has a three-ring circus. I don't even think all the dust will settle before the next presidential election is upon us!
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  4. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    There aren't, we just sent out a bunch of guys with magnets to fuck with them.
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  8. Nova

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    some have noted the same sort of irregularities appear in the primaries where Harris, a hard-line culture-warrior Baptist Preacher - primaried a Republican incumbent. Harris is, basically, an embarrassment. The may figure that in a fair election their incumbent would end up with the seat.
  9. Order2Chaos

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    Once again, pure fantasizing. Using your methodology, this is what the 2012 map, after 2010's red wave, looks like (light colors flipped from reality, MN was a split delegation and had no Senate election to break the tie):
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    This is obviously a very, very far cry from what happened in 2012.

    What Democrats should be worried about right now, is how to flip a 3rd state. Florida is going to flip on the ex-con reenfranchisement. MI seems likely to flip now unless the news for auto industry jobs gets worlds better in the next two years. That leaves the generic Democrat at 267. So how are you going to get back one more state?
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    More on the NC-09 shenanigans:

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  12. Nova

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    Pennsylvania is almost a given.

    Wisconsin - particularly given the GOP is currently engaged in Bond-villain bullshit that will rile up the Dems even more

    Arizona was very close last time and all indications are it's moving left

    Ditto NC (and also ditto the GOP bullshit factor)

    And Georgia might be in reach of the Dem wins the SoS race today.
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    Yeah, all that sounds like 2016 reasoning.
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    2016 was a unicorn
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    CNN's reporting that 1000 mail-in ballots may have been destroyed by this contractor.

    Is this irony, or projection?
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    Yep, and the GOP lost majorly with 18-30s, with even worse news that the slightly older age brackets are not "growing up and becoming Conservative once they get a proper job" as has been the conventional mantra.
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    I referenced that upthread. We literally have a direct comparison in the same age group that was 12-29 12 years ago and is most of the 30-45 group now. That cohort is still almost 60% Dem/left. The current 18-29 is about 2/3 Dem/left (and the 46-60 group is about 50/50)
  20. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Maybe there's a job ahead for you as fact checker for CNN or Trump?

    Here's a couple of versions:
    Here's the oldest version some quote-checker site found:
    It gets attributed to Disraeli a lot, but Sir Winny often gets the credit.
    Can't be much of a "mantra" if so unfamiliar it gets misquoted to score a political point. [By a Brit, heh.]

    So there's still hope for AOC, but I wouldn't place any bets, she's got a racket now and will doubtlessly stick to it. Like if Hillary had a future as a "Goldwater Girl" she could've stayed there, and well might have become the most strident conservative of today.
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    the concept is almost certainly predicated on wealth - that is it assumes that by middle age one has both acquired some wealth and enough greed to wish to hoard it.
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  22. oldfella1962

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    this just in! My point follows the link:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...a-were-not-counted/ar-BBQMed9?ocid=spartandhp

    If you are a democrat (but this could apply to any voter really) and suspect that the system is rigged then you must one DUMB MOTHERFUCKER TO VOTE BY MAIL. :facepalm: Seriously, you leave your vote in the hands of the US Postal Service (knowing how fucked up they are) then have to take a bite out of a disappointment sandwich. :no: Whether intentionally or thru ineptitude the votes did not arrive in time - what a big fucking surprise! :shrug:

    A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Also the more links in the chain, the more likely one of those links will fail. Thus unless there were no other possible way to vote why the fuck would you mail in your vote? :shrug: Murphy's Law alone virtually guarantees everything you mail on that date will make it from Point A to Point B except for what is the most important piece of mail. Only a recently arrived immigrant who doesn't know any better relies on the USPS. Any thoughts?
  23. MikeH92467

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    Once again we see anti-government bullshit taking the place of actual facts.
    In late 2011, Oxford Strategic Consulting, a British firm, released a report ranking the postal services of the G-20 countries based on three metrics: “provision of access to vital services,” “operational resource efficiency,” and “performance and public trust.” Guess who came in first? That’s right: the good old U.S. of A.
    1. The United States Postal Service
    Efficiency may not be the first word that comes to mind when Americans think of the USPS, but U.S. mail carriers are better at using their limited resources than any of their counterparts, according to OSC’s study. In one year, America’s mailmen and women delivered 268,894 letters and 2,633 parcels per carrier — more than any other country — to 151 million addresses. All told, the USPS accounts for 40 percent of the world’s mail volume (yes, that figure counts your Victoria’s Secret catalogues). And despite complaints about customer service, when researchers in a different study tested 159 countries’ post offices on how fast an average letter sent to a fake address would be returned, the United States also came in first.
    The biggest obstacle to a more efficient post office may be the U.S. Congress, which has failed to approve reform efforts such as setting up retail outlets in post offices, raising prices, shuttering less-used offices, and ending six-day delivery. (As part of its new cost-saving measures, the USPS has managed to circumvent Congress by keeping only parcel service on Saturdays so that, technically, there’s still some service six days a week.)

    And in case you American declinists were wondering, China ranks last on the survey.

    And here's one that doesn't rank the U.S. number one. Seven years of Congressional sabotage shows that if you want goverrnment to fail, you can make it that way.
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  24. Nova

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    you realize a lot of those are going to be service members, right?
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    That's why I said " unless there were no other possible way to vote" because absentee voting may be their only choice. Perhaps service members can do it electronically these days, I don't know. When I served we used absentee ballot voting if we were overseas and your voting had to go through several people (procedures) virtually guaranteeing your vote would never make it to the polls in time. :brood:
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    Which is why some states, such as Florida, have an extended deadline for military ballots to arrive and be counted.

    That's why Trump was so completely out of line when the vote was close in Florida and they recounted carefully, and waited until all the military ballots had arrived to announce a winner, when he said that the count on election day should be final. (I'm sure he wouldn't have said that if the Democrats had been slightly ahead...) He was saying that Florida election officials should break the law (Florida law mandates recounts if the results are too close, and mandates counting the ballots from overseas military that arrive within a week of election day, so that if the margin is smaller than the number of ballots which could still arrive, there cannot be final, certifiable results), and he was saying that a very large number of votes from overseas military should not count.

    But compared to the number of other abysmally studid things he has said, that one was hardly more than a little blip on the radar...
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  27. T.R

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    Screw Trump.We had a lot of really close paper thin races this year so it's very important to make sure that ALL votes are counted before declaring a winner. We all still remember the 2000 debacle when the networks called the state for Gore while voters were still casting ballots in the panhandle. We can wait until the military ballots have come in before announcing a winner. If that means waiting a few days, then so be it. An accurate count is far more important than peoples impatience . With the exception of the usual idiot SOEs in Broward and Palm Beach counties( who voters will continue to re-elect for that job so long as they have a D by their names) the Florida recounts went as smoothly as you could hope.
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    because he's a goddamn imbecile who doesn't know how any legitimate government function actually works?
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  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    California has an online tracking system for mail-in votes. :shrug: