2nd attempt: Will you vote for McCain?

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Will you vote for McCain?

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  1. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    I dunno... hostile Congresses tend to stop presidents with an agenda. But if it looks like he's breaking his word reluctantly, they'll go with it.
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    No, I won't be voting for him.
  3. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    This is why many red states might be shocking us this fall :calli:
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  4. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    Fuck no!

    I'm voting for the greater evil. The strategy of voting for the lesser evil doesn't work.
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  5. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I'll vote for him. I don't think he has a lot of charisma, but he's got at least some policies that I support.

    Anyone that thinks that he'd be Bush Jr really hasn't been paying attention - they have some significant differences, and ran a particularly nasty race in 2000 against each other.

    But there isn't a strong candidate out there for me, so yes, it would be a compromise choice.
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  6. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    You want gridlock?

    give McCain an actual conservative Congress...you won't get gridlock if you give Monty Hall a Dem congress to work with.
  7. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I have the luxury of living in a state that's a lock to go red....tus, i will vote for a lesser party as i have since 1988.
  8. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    It will be interesting to see if any red states go blue, and people will be like:

    "I thought you were going to vote for McCain?"

    "Why would I vote for John McCain? You were supposed to vote for John McCain!"

    "No way could I vote for John McCain! OMG...he didn't win the state?"
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  9. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    ^^^
    that may well be true in Missouri or Virginia or Florida....not a chance in Mississippi.

    Besides, as bad as it will be to have either one of those loons in office for 4 years, especially in terms of throwing away the blood spilled in Iraq already, I can at least take comfort in knowing that once they start governing the revulsion that will sweep the country back to the right will be overwhelming and will deliver a Republican congress in 2010 and, with luck, an actual conservative president in 2012.

    So it won't be a total loss.
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  10. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Why not?

    More people still have to vote for McCain than anyone else for him to win any given State. And nobody seems to want to :soma:

    If some other guy is gonna take care of it, someone better tell the other guy :soma:

    I get a kick out of people saying this with such certainty. It may well happen, but then again perhaps not.

    Using words like "knowing" like you just did, as if you've read a history book that time travelled into the past...too funny!
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  11. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    Presumably you'll be voting for the Stalinist candidate, or the neo-Nazi one in that case?
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  12. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

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    So, McCain or Hillary, respectively?
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  13. Xerafin

    Xerafin Unmoderated & off-center

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    If you're going to vote for evil, why should you vote for a half-assed attempt at it anyway? :lol:
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  14. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Surely you are not under the impression NOBODY wants to vote for McCain?

    and that's before you get to the big chunk of folks who don't WANT to but are WILLING to given the alternative (i.e. the same way Bush got elected twice)

    There are a whole lot more people out there than you think that are not jumping on Obama's Magic Bus....and a lot of the ill-informed who are on there now won't stay there until November - remember the vast majority of those who will vote in November haven't even troubled themselves to look beyond a first impression at any of these three.

    A bug chunk of the electorate won't even try to think about who they will vote for until after Labor Day.
  15. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    I'm willing to bet that from now until election time McCain panders to the evangelical base enough to gain their support and thus win the election.

    Which will in turn piss off a lot of liberals and Obama supporters, and that makes me happy.

    So go you religious losers who feel that there shouldn't be a separation between church and state! :D
  16. Aurora

    Aurora Vincerò!

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    By that logic, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin would win 2008 in a landslide.
  17. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    Why is McCain running?

    I mean, Obama is running to bring change, Clinton is running presumably because she craves power.

    But what does McCain hope to achieve?
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  18. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Nah. If red states go blue then purple states will have been more than enough to determine the election. It's possible that Virginia voting 'D' gives the Democrats the election when Florida or Ohio vote 'R,' but that's not a bet I'd take without significant odds in my favor.
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  19. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    Why does any politician run for office? And Obama and Hillary are running for the same reason McCain is...to have their picture on a stamp 5 years after they die.
  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    No he won't, because if he wins this election and then runs again in 2012 you will be like this again...

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  21. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    I'll never vote for McCain. Better to sit home on election day and keep your dignity intact if you are a conservative than voting for him. I despise the man and refuse to vote for him just to keep Hillary or Obama out of office.
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  22. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Probably keeping Obama and Hilary out of office, too! :D
  23. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    Bush's first Congress was comprised 98% the same people Clinton's last. Fat lot of good that did. The only remotely sane thing to do if you want gridlock, IMHO, is to vote Republican for Congress, and Democrat for President. As for the Republicans, if they obtain a majority in both houses of Congress, there is a chance, however unlikely, they might find a backbone, and use it.

    I'm not optimistic enough that gridlock will work, however, so I'm writing in Ron Paul.
  24. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Only if Paul makes a third party run.
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  25. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    Is there a difference between Hillary and Obama that I don't know about? :flow:
  26. Zombie

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    Damn straight. For too long we've all been saying, "well the lesser of the two evils"

    The way I see those two fuck-ups can set the stage for the Republicans to come roaring back. If McCain wins then nothing will get better.

    The hell with that. Lets go all out evil.

    Vote Democrat in 2008.
  27. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    naaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........................

    Paul is more like Mussolini. You know the one guy in the axis of evil who no one knew anything about or paid any attention to.

    :D
  28. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    You have a point, but, so far, McCain hasn't actually reneged on anything he's promised to get my vote.

    I guess I'm more willing to compromise now, than to stand back and allow the 'greater evil' in and hope it will result in a better candidate 4 years from now.