Affirmative Action Doesn't Work, It Never Did...

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  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    The map shows the percentage of people in each county without access to a grocery store. If a county is half urban, half rural, and scores 20%, it could mean 40% of the urban area.
     
  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Mindful of the fact that you're the guy who thought it would be cool to stare down a homeless guy in San Francisco, I can't say I'm surprised.

    Been "everywhere," have you? Or is your criterion only applicable to other people?
     
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    In defense of Garamet's point, it is harder to walk two miles carrying food than it looks.
     
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  4. evenflow

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    Stare down a homeless guy? What?

    I do make it a point to go places, places different from where I live, or out of my comfort zone entirely. Just spent an afternoon touring ethnic grocery stores in the Pacific Northwest in fact. When's the last time you were in a Red State grocery store?

    He'll, I'll give ya points for leaving the airport in a non coastal state.
     
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  5. evenflow

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    Ohhh... I remember now. I told story of how a guy was watching me handle cash, and I remember eyeballing him in the hopes of not getting mugged. Granny, that wasn't me being cool, that was me being scared. :lol:
     
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  6. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You're projecting.
     
  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    And getting back on topic, what if parents "don't want to feed their kids right"? Q.v. Post #19.
     
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    That moment when you realize your talking about grocery shopping with a shut in who has her groceries delivered. :bailey:
     
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Blue Room?
     
  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So while evenflow is busy Making Shit Up, let's get back on topic. Anc's outlined an excellent plan for addressing childhood nutrition and, if you were of an entrepreneurial frame of mind, you'd start a company like Fresh Vending and replace the Coke-and-candy machines in schools with healthful snacks that kids will eat because their friends eat them and that makes it :cool:.

    Anyone interested in getting in on this happenin' penny stock, BTW, it's on the NASDAQ as VEND. Price per share has jumped from $1.76 to $5.12 in less than two months.
     
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  11. Zombie

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    Or it could be that their friends eat it because there is NOTHING ELSE to choose from......
     
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    But that map shows mostly rural counties as food deserts. In some of those places your driveway could be a mile long, so a 15-20 mile trip to the nearest store might not be that big a deal. OTOH the food deserts I'm familiar with are in blighted urban neighborhoods where you have to either haul your groceries home on the bus, pay for cab/delivery, or just shop at the corner store.
     
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  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    :ohnoes: "Other People's Children Eat Food That's Good for Them, Thereby Putting Them in Direct Competition with My Kids!!!!11"
     
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  14. oldfella1962

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    It usually does, but it depends on how you are trying to spin things. BTW mandatory after school activities - what about transportation? In my county (and many others) school buses only make two runs, morning and afternoon. Sports, tutoring, summer school, etc.etc. there are no buses. Just sayin'.
     
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  15. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If the after-school activities were mandatory, the buses would wait until the activities were over, just as they wait for the last period now. :shrug:
     
  16. evenflow

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    Is it an "after school" activity if it's mandatory? I'd just call it school.
     
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  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Tomato/tomahto. Does it help kids or doesn't it?
     
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  18. Ancalagon

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    The buses would be pushed back. You wouldn't run buses if there wouldn't be any students on them.

    If it helps, think of ASA as 9th period, just that it's graded on Pass/Fail.
     
  19. Ancalagon

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    :shrug: It was mandatory at my school, but still called ASA so that's what I call it.
     
  20. evenflow

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    Let's just cut to the chase. I'm against helping kids.

    Seriously, school is failing those kids, MOAR SCHOOL ain't necessarily a cure all. Especially with the same people and institutions in charge.
     
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  21. oldfella1962

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    If the kids don't give a shit about school, why would they give a shit about another couple more hours of it? The mandatory after school things would only help kids who would be okay without it anyway.
    Leading a horse to water and all that......
     
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  22. evenflow

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    When I wasn't in athletics, my ASA was day building fence or other work. School unto itself isn't... Wait I already said that.
     
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    BTW why do many Asian/immigrant kids going to shitty schools in the vast food deserts excel? Could it be involved family members promoting a better work ethic no matter what their circumstances?
    No, I'm sure that can't be the reason.
     
  24. Ancalagon

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    ASA is what you GET to do by maintaining Cs or above. If not you get stuck in studyhall.
     
  25. oldfella1962

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    So a kid does an extra hour or two in what seems a waste of time to them anyway, then gets back to his shitty life. This should bring the graduation rate up from 45 to 46 percent.
     
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  26. Ancalagon

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    Yes, of course that is the reason.

    Now the question is what do you do about the kids who DON'T have those kind of families/households? Just write them off?
     
  27. garamet

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    The usual trope around here is oldfella's "It's the Parents' Fault." When did that change?
     
  28. Ancalagon

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    A kid has access to a tutor, quiet space to do homework and incentive to improve (want to go play instead of stuck in Study Hall? Get your grades up).

    It also moves the kids schedule closer to adults. Over half of juvenile crime occurs between 3-5:30, when the kids are home but most adults are still at work.
     
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  29. Ancalagon

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    Maintain a C average and you can get a waiver for work.

    Next objection.
     
  30. oldfella1962

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    You'd have to ask their parents that question, they already wrote them off. Maybe we can take them forcibly away from their families and put them in a state run camp run by Asian overlords and house them in FEMA trailers and have them grow their own healthy food?
     
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