An interesting argument that is, unfortunately, all to rare.

David and Jonathan were possibly lovers, for example. I'm not going into the long story of it, but yes, there are people in the Bible thought to be gay.

If the services encouraged or supported those behaviors that the doctor finds contrary to their beliefs, then yes. Put another way. And ob/gyn should not be forced to perform abortions if abortion is held as a sin by the doctor's beliefs.

There is no reason to believe that of David and Jonathan.

God is the originator of morality. Nothing He does can be deemed good or evil because he transcends morality altogether.

No reason for you, but then that's because there's no reasoning with you. Regardless, believe what you will, just understand that when you act on your beliefs, there may be consequences for those actions. If you're a doctor who refuses to perform a lifesaving abortion, then you deserve to lose your medical license.

Your god. Your opinion. I, personally, don't give a shit if you believe in the Great Gazoo, just don't try to put it into legislation.

My god? I could definitely imagine a more perfect god: Myself. However, that's just not how things work.

Yep, your god. It doesn't matter if you can imagine a more perfect god, the one you're following now is the one you chose. Your god does not exist for me.

What does God need with a faster than light space vehicle?

Well, there goes large swaths of the Bible deleted then.
Lotta war and genocide in the name of God in there.

Well, that's the thing, I can't imagine a more perfect god. I, like you, was created by something with a level of understanding beyond the ken of any man. I can only pretend to know what a more perfect god looks like. To let my fantasy become the basis of my reality... isn't that delusion?

I choose to follow physics in spite of the fact it denies me innumerable abilities. I think it was a sane choice.

Couching your god in "physics" doesn't change that it's your god, that it only exists in your mind, and that it doesn't affect me whatsoever, as long as you're not trying to legislate it.

I don't.

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Well, it's been mildly amusing, but I see we are not quite on the same wavelength. Have a nice day.

An abortion is never necessary to save a life.

If you don't believe in God that's your buisness just don't make it mine by legislating that I violate my beliefs in Him.

Says someone who will never need one, and doesn't have to think about it. You're wrong, but it's not like you'd care either way.

Perhaps you should find a better god. If you'd rather keep the one you have, well then do exactly that. Keep him. To yourself. And out of our government.

Extensive amounts of undeniable medical research disagree with you on that.

It's just getting really hard to take you guys seriously considering it's 2017 and you say really, really, really stupid shit like "An abortion is never necessary to save a life. " The levels of cognizant denial you put yourselves through is embarrassing.

How am I wrong?

I would prefer you keep you progressive idiocy out of government.

I think it's hilarious that "progressive" can be a negative word to people.

Yeah, me and my "women have rights to their own bodies," "gays shouldn't be stoned to death," and other crazy progressive positions. Don't worry, Ryan, someday Gilead will be real, and those pesky women will lose the right to read, as God intended.

You mean like conservative is to liberals?

many libertarians oughta try it as well...

Gazoo was DEFINITELY gay.

It's called being a hypocrite and unfortunately there are a lot of them in the Church in the United States. I think the 2002, and current, version of the Baptist Faith and Message hits pretty close to the mark when it says,

"God alone is Lord of the conscience, and He has left it free from the doctrines and commandments of men which are contrary to His Word or not contained in it. Church and state should be separate. The state owes to every church protection and full freedom in the pursuit of its spiritual ends. In providing for such freedom no ecclesiastical group or denomination should be favored by the state more than others. Civil government being ordained of God, it is the duty of Christians to render loyal obedience thereto in all things not contrary to the revealed will of God. The church should not resort to the civil power to carry on its work. The gospel of Christ contemplates spiritual means alone for the pursuit of its ends. The state has no right to impose penalties for religious opinions of any kind. The state has no right to impose taxes for the support of any form of religion. A free church in a free state is the Christian ideal, and this implies the right of free and unhindered access to God on the part of all men, and the right to form and propagate opinions in the sphere of religion without interference by the civil power."

Genesis 1:27; 2:7; Matthew 6:6-7,24; 16:26; 22:21; John 8:36; Acts 4:19-20; Romans 6:1-2; 13:1-7; Galatians 5:1,13; Philippians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:1-2; James 4:12; 1 Peter 2:12-17; 3:11-17; 4:12-19.

Who said anything about morality. I thought Diacanu was talking about the existential natures of killed and not killed.

Who is forcing you to participate, ya doorknob?

Don't attend a gay wedding and don't work in any capacity where you may be complicit in "celebrating" gay marriage and you're set. Gays couldn't care less about your acceptance once they get protected by civil rights laws.

My God says that the races shouldn't mix, so I'm not going to serve black people at my lunch counter.

Respect my deeply held beliefs or you're persecuting me!

You know, cakes aren't magic, right?
There's nothing in the Bible about cakes being magic.
It's not like gay buttsex curses get into the cake like a horcrux.

You think God is up on his cloud, going "I saw that!! you gave that gay couple a cake!!! I curse thee!!"?

God's not mad. He's just disappointed.

God says droids are teh devil.

Both John and Diacanu have issues with God because they mistakenly believe they can pass value judgements upon Him. Whether one considers being killed by God as good or bad is irrelevant as far the one being killed is concerned.

But the greater point here is that those who continue to believe they can judge God approach the subject from a fundamentally flawed position. Willfully or not, such people operate under the belief they are equal to, if not greater than, God.

Seems a bit ridiculous to me.