Are you still Catholic? If so, go fuck yourself.

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    It creates a feedback loop. You're a priest who commits "impure acts" and your source for guidance in the world tells you that you sinned because you don't have enough faith. So to prove that you have faith, you do more public demonstrations of your faith. When this fails to curb your behavior, you again amp up your public displays of faith. And so on.

    Only about 50% of priests are actually celibate, and of those that are, I'm sure sure that the bulk of them fall into the "too old and feeble to fuck" category.
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    I've never heard this before. Do you have any supporting evidence?
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    Ooh, I hope he said it in Italian. “Pezzo di merda” has such a lovely ring to it. :smitten:


    From what I’ve gathered, Vigano is a leader of the traditionalist faction, who despise Francis because of his relatively liberal position on gays. There doesn’t seem to be any merit to his accusations.
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  4. Amaris

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    This is why prostitution needs to be legal. Well, one of the reasons, anyway.

    Oh, also marriage and stuff. Whatever.
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  5. Tuckerfan

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    Here's the website of the expert who helped the Boston Globe uncover what was happening there. It's his research that came up with the 6% figure. http://www.awrsipe.com/

    You'd know this if you'd watched the movie "Spotlight" as it's talked about extensively in the film.
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    The coward refuses to apologize for role the Catholic Church played in the abusive, murderous, rapey, Canadian residential school system as well.

    Maybe he should shut the fuck up about every other moral or ethical issue until he's willing to talk about his own. :brood:
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  7. Amaris

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    Good point. If he really believes in what he says he does, the best thing he can do is get these priests mental help, but most importantly he needs to get them out of positions of power, influence, and trust. Shuffling them around and telling them to pray harder only creates scenarios for more victims. Get them out so they can't be tempted to use their influence and authority again, get them help to prevent future acts, and remove the conditions of the environment where it fosters and grows, and then I'll believe he's trying to do the right thing.
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    that's religion for you! The church leaders fuck your children and if you don't accept that with smile and a big fat open wallet, god himself throws you into eternal hellfire. Great fucking institution - so much love & mercy demonstrated it leaves me awestruck & inspired 24/7.
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    Here's an idea. If we stick to the position that protecting child molestors while endangering kids is bad in any case, we don't need to decide whether we pick sides with the homophobe who thinks homosexuality excludes gays from heaven or the homophobe who believes God still loves them despite their sin.
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    Thoughts and prayers.
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    While that could be it, I can think of other good reasons.

    One is the idea that a priest should be married to the church -- unencumbered by earthly relationships and able to devote himself exclusively to service.

    Another is the idea that if the priesthood is the highest calling to service, it should entail a serious measure of personal sacrifice.

    I'm not saying there aren't less noble possibilities, or that it doesn't have unintended consequences, or even that requiring celibacy is a good idea, but there are some possible philosophical reasons that would make sense.
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    No, I'm not claiming anything about "executions". :rolleyes:

    "Mother and baby homes" were institutions run by the church that unmarried mothers were sent to give birth, often by coercion.
    They had to remain for a year afterwards - essentially imprisoned and forced to work. They were also seperated from their children, who could be given over for adoption elsewhere - for money. Hundreds of the children who died (including quite a few from mistreatment and malnutrition) in at least one of these institutions were unregistered and were buried in a large unmarked grave also used for sewage. Calling it a "graveyard" would be a stretch.

    Those interested in this and related matters involving the church in Ireland should watch The Magdalene Sisters and Philomena, both worthwhile movies about the people who passed through this system.
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    It was actually fine, helped I'm sure by the fact that far fewer people turned out for the charade than were expected. Thanks for your concern. ;)
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    Amaris has a good point - mental help for the diddling priests. One of these administered directly to the brain will do wonders! Then they can safely be transferred to a location (second picture) where the priest is guaranteed to never diddle again.

    slug.jpg cemetary.jpg
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    Why is the shell green and not red? :huh:
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    Because shotgun shell colors vary by manufacturer and even ammunition type.
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    Biodegradable?

    Hey, the NRA needs to get as many tax breaks as it can these days, might as well go for the green subsidies!
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    Huh. All my 20s are yellow and 12s red. Back in the day I remember .410 always being green. I think 16 was purple and 10 black, but I don't have one and it's been a few years since I was too young to shoot and instead had to drive the beer trailer/pick up shells at dove hunts.
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    HA! Yes I had a .410 when I was a kid and if memory serves the shells were green - but it could have been related to the brand of shells I bought. When I was visiting my daughter in Washington state last summer she had a yellow 20 gauge shell laying on the clothes in her hamper. :huh: She's......not the best house keeper to say the least. You don't want to know what was in the cat's litter box. :shep:
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  20. Amaris

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    Meh. I don't know if you're joking or serious, but I just can't agree with the idea of killing people, including people who commit horrible acts against other human beings. I am not the architect of life and death, and I do not believe anyone else is capable of carrying out that responsibility. A mite is not a god, though it might think itself as such.
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    Well if the priests have enough faith god will prevent that slug from ventilating their noggin.
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    if true, fucking pathetic. The very definition of complicit enabler. Here is how I interpret the entire kiddie diddler scene in the Catholic church (and perhaps other churches with similar cover-ups and systemic exploitation): human dignity and rights play second fiddle to god and power. :brood: Isn't Christianity all about sacrifice and deference to god? So if a kid gets sexually abused they are just a "sacrifice" and ignoring or denying it the cost we must pay for not upsetting the apple cart. Ultimately it's about keeping the church family together because the church family is the glue that keeps the Catholic church (as an institution) together. And apparently that church is such an established & venerated institution that we can't access god without it. The drive from the average church member in the trenches to keep up the status quo ends up being exploited by the church leadership. Denial and delusion become so powerful that church members put preservation over their own immediate family's beliefs and safety below that of appeasing the church/god.

    As a father I say "fuck that bullshit!" :shakefist: And fuck the saying "god, country, family" good & hard. Reverse that order!
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    I'm tingling with excitement! New York attorney general issues subpoenas to every Catholic diocese in the state
    https://wapo.st/2Qao6HG
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    I'm cautiously optimistic. Nothing against Catholics, but the idea of any church being untouchable & above the law is too much like Sharia law. Obviously it's a question of scale & context but foxes guarding the henhouse internal investigations bring the US one step further away from separation of church & state. :brood:
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    Awfully bold of you to assume Mohammed didn't model those laws after the Catholic Church :?:

    But I agree.
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    I'm no legal expert, but this looks like a bit of a bombshell to me.
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    Pope Frankie says victims speaking out are actually tools of Satan.
    As you can see from some of the tweets quoted in the article, this isn't going over well with many people.
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    Welp, two steps forward for Pope Francis, 5 steps back.
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