Been thinking of doing this at some point with my PTR...

This isn't very high on my list of priorities right now, but is a very big itch that I'll probably need to scratch some day when I have a lot of disposable income.

Take my PTR-91 (the one on the right...duh)



Then add...

-a proper HK wide for arm with a bipod

-a Magpul PSG-1 stock knock off

-An HK claw mount with built in 30mm rings

-A Super Sniper 10X42 scope

-And last, but most certainly not least...a Williams Trigger Specialties SG1 trigger job

End up with a sweet G3SG1 / PSG1 hybrid.

Why a scope? Seems like a good use of an ACog to me. And does H&K not use Rails?

Mostly because the scope in question is about five or six hundred dollars cheaper than an ACOG. Also, isn't an ACOG 3x? I'd like a little more power than that.

I've thought about http://www.robertrtg.com/hklowprofilescopemount.html these, and they're certainly more versitile, but to be honest I just like the looks of the old style claw mounts better.

Do eeeeet! You must do eeeeeet!!!

By the way, I love that big, bold text on the claw mount indicates the "Shooting Direction" (in German).

Oh, now I have to put up pics of mine.

Yeah, but isn't that basically an assault rifle? If you want a semi-auto sniper rifle, get an M14. IMO.

Eh, I'm lazy. I know rails = I like rails. What about on the heat shields. Do they not make a rails system for that? Where you mount your tac lights and lasers and shit?

No. It's a 7.62 N battle rifle just like an M14...only more accurate.

See above.

Fucking traitor!

Actually, the end result will be similar to what Viggo Mortensen used in G.I. Jane...but with a target bull barrel.

Someone used my link to imfdb.org!


Since it seems like you're such a huge fan of the movie, you should flesh the article out a little bit!

From the limited reading I've done on the subject, the FN-FAL was probably a better weapon than the M14.

There are some good books about US small arms development from that time and I need to read them.

It's true. I'd still rather have the weapon that was forged in the fires of WWII and perfected in Vietnam than some furriner gun.

Dude, that scope is gonna totally fog up in the shower!

The G3 was forged in the fires of WWII and didn't need to be perfected.

Yeah...the concensus of everything I've read puts the FAL at the top overall. Between the FAL, G3/PTR-91, and the M14/M1a, the G3/PTR is considered to be the most accurate and most rugged (if not quite most dependable). The fact that you can get magazines for a dollar a piece doesn't hurt either.

What kills it is the horrible ergonomics, crappy trigger, and the fact that the bolt doesn't hold open on the last round.

I would think having a crappy trigger would not help with accuracy at all.

It doesn't.

BTW, the crappy trigger was actually done on purpose. Part of West Germany's requirements was that it could be dropped ten meters onto cement without it going off.

10 meters!?!?!

Has the aftermarket not corrected the first two?

Yes on the trigger (Bill Springfield did a wonderful job on mine).

No (at least not that I'm aware of) on the bolt hold open.

I figured the bolt locking to the rear would be a bit much for the aftermarket.

Yeah! I know!

Even the French don't have such stringent requirements.

What was ours? Like 10"?

Yeah...a bit. The charging handle isn't even connected to the carrier group. They'd have to totally re-design the upper pretty much from the ground up.

Yeah. Hard charging, hard nosed, red blooded Americans carrying the M14's daddy stomped the guys toting your rifle's daddy into a bloody puddle.

Are you a Nazi sympathizer, son?

Nein! Ich bi...

No! I'm no Nazi!

Ja, so, but if zee Germans had pairfected zee assault rifle and produzed zee Gay-Drei before zee end of zee voar, zee glove vood've been on zee ozer foot, mein freund.

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