BitCoin: "The Most Dangerous Project We've Ever Seen"

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee, May 16, 2011.

  1. sandbagger

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    Ah. The power of suggestion.
  2. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Scarcity is a big part of creating the demand. You can't just "print" the currency; you have to "mine" it with CPU cycles, and that takes time.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Exactly. If Bitcoins have a real world value, they will be taxed as any other commodity would be.
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    If this gains traction, I think governments could put policies in place to prevent bitcoin capital flight. It's true it will be harder to do, but unless a good chunk of your labor gets paid to you in bitcoins, red flags will probably be raised as soon as a millionaire converts all his local currency to bitcoins. Then he'll get labelled a flight risk, and agents will undoubtedly be looking for him.

    Governments pretty much have control of the banks. If I say, deposited $25,000 into my account when my previous transactions were between the 50 :twocents: and :$:500 variety, there will be all sorts of alarms raised, and Canada Revenue Service will get a note from the bank to watch out for when this guy does his taxes the next year. This won't happen if the transaction is all in bitcoins. Heck, I don't think it happens with Paypal either. Where it gets dicey is when you want to convert it to real world currency.
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    It's no help when you need cash, but for everything else, the point is to not have to convert it to a so-called "real-world" currency, because people will accept it.
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    Given the rate of bubble growth now the whole thing is probably gonna crash before any government gets a chance to try and stop it.
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    Explain. AFAIK it grows logarithmically, not exponentially.
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    Forgot about this thread, it's certainly been an interesting couple of months for bitcoin. :lol:
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    Never saw this thread earlier. Amazingly enough, I got in on the bitcoin ground-floor somewhat. When I started, was amazingly easy to generate blocks. In fact, was generating 50 at a time and built up over 2000 bitcoins, mainly to use them for my VoIP provider. I actually cringed at how much I gave them early on as I had no idea how much money they would be worth in a relatively short period of time. When the value took off, I cashed in several thousand dollars worth, but even then I acted too soon as they went up over $30 US for a short time. I sold mine at between eight dollars and $20.

    I still have something like 6 or 700, but the value has been plummeting over the last few days. Might be time to buy soon.
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  11. enlisted person

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    Hmmmn.
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    Latest hilarity (that I've seen...I can't claim to be keeping up with all the goings-on): one of the bitcoin exchanges rolled out some untested software that accidentally went nuts while trying to send someone 1 bitcoin and accidentally did the transaction 512 times. So, at the current price, they just sent someone over $4k via an anonymous currency that has irreversible transactions. They're currently trying to shame the recipient into giving the money back and he's openly mocking them. :cartman:
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    Hell yea, I'd laugh my ass off at them. I mean, what can they do? Nothing apparently. :lol:
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    If the recipient didn't openly mock the retards under such circumstances then I'd lose what little faith I have left in humanity.

    When libertarians--i.e. bitcoin aficionados--try to shame someone into violently anally penetrating his own financial self interest sideways with a giant spiked dildo in order to secure the greater good for the masses of bitcoin users, mocking is the only reaction not worthy of utter contempt.
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  15. Dr. Drake Ramoray

    Dr. Drake Ramoray 1 minute, 42.1 seconds baby!

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    We don't deal in such minor currencies at bitcoins, now if you've got some quatloos burning a hole in your pocket...

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  16. Bailey

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    I've been following the massive BitCoin thread over at SomethingAwful for the last couple of months, that is just the tip of the iceberg of the hilarity:

    http://buttcoin.org/ has a good rundown of various dramas in the BitCoin community.
  17. Bailey

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    The entire BitCoin fiasco has been an incredible example of how an entirely unregulated market can work, or in this case not. At this point in time there isn't a major BitCoin trading/banking site I know of that hasn't either openly scammed its customers, or lost vast amounts of their BitCoin through hacking or "accidents".
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    Krugman: BitCoin does the opposite of what a currency should do.
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    BitCoin and malware.
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    Well, that's an odd one, all right.
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    Oh, thought you meant the growth in volume of bitcoins, not the value.
  23. Bailey

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    I have to say, I'm impressed that this second bubble has managed to grow so big.
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  24. We Are Borg

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    Bitcoin is fucking stupid and will never catch on with the general populace.

    Also, RIP dkehler. :(

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  25. Order2Chaos

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    Shiny. I should probably sell the ones I mined a long time ago.
  26. Liet

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    The 'tards are getting antsy about the gold prices and they still think the dollar's about to shit a hyperinflation brick any day now. They've gotta blow up some stupid bubble or another--or several--if they don't trust the gold bubble anymore, so why not this one?
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Taking a look at who enthused for it in this thread, I came to the same conclusion without any further data.
    Didn't know that :(
    Aye.
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  28. Bailey

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    You were into this in 2010 right? If you've held onto some coins since then you've hit the jackpot (assuming you manage to offload them before this bubble collapses)
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    Man offering his house for sale wants to be paid in BitCoins.
    More at the link.
  30. Bailey

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    I've been following Bitcoin closely for the past couple of years and it's really interesting both for the ways in which it is succeeding as a payment method for illegal activity, as well as the many ways it shows the tendency of a totally free market to quickly collapse into monopolies, exploitation of financial opportunities in ways no anticipated and how defacto rulers and regulators emerge. When I have a free day going to make up a big post.