Brexit LOLOLOL

The most amusing bit has been the likes of Soubry going tits at the changes the harder-Brexiters have pushed for.

The EU has already made it unoffcially clear it doesn't approve of May's paper, despite it having been run through Merkel before anyone else got to see it by all accounts - there must be scope for a comedy show for the strange UK girl, Theresa, spending a year in an Osti school, and Frau Angela having to do all her homework for her because she was thick as two short planks acting as straws in a pigshit milkshake.

I was a bit surprised at how negative the response has been from Brussels - opposition was entirely foreseeable from within the UK - and I'm not sure how they're going to play this so that they can say no and at the same time support May.

She's remained as leader as no one wants the additional chaos at the moment, her career kept alive like Montgomery Burns, but it is looking like the status quo is as dead as Rick Parfitt.

It may be gone some time.

And Liam Fox is saying No Deal is more likely than a deal at this point.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...deal-brexit-now-more-likely-than-an-agreement

And in other news it's wet when it rains.

Oh the folly of the arrogant Brexiteers.

"Oh noes, there's a Polish accent in Starbucks! Leave, leave, leave!"

No deal is much better than the dog shit the EU is trying to sell.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...ill-break-laws-refuses-compromise-brexit/amp/

Not surprisingly the EU is breaking its own laws. They have been nothing but criminals from the start.

NoDealBrexit - heated debate - absolutely shocking level of delusion.

Also, the UK government released some advice yesterday concerning a no deal Brexit. In relation to the crucial matter of how business would function across the Irish border, what was the advice? Go ask the Irish government.

EU summit in Salzburg yesterday...EU leaders comprehensively shat on Teresa May's Chequers Plan...she's sticking by it anyway...BoJo potentially making a leadership challenge in the next couple of weeks.

A poll shows that Labour would get into government if there was a general election and they offered a new vote. They probably should think about that.

I'm getting more and more convinced that the Brexit strategy is to sacrifice Northern Ireland.

People keep talking about an IRA resurgence but I think a much more likely outcome is a shitty Ireland situation that results in NI voting to leave the UK.

Lol at your second paragraph. No surprise you’d support Corbyn in spite of the kind of antisemitic comments that any credible politician would resign over.

Don’t mistake a desire for a decent Brexit outcome for Labour support.

Link the poll by the way.

Here are details about the poll. It's specifically around attitudes to Labour should they offer a peoples vote.

Of course it's no "surprise" I'd support Corbyn. I don't recall ever hiding that fact.

Why are you getting convinced of that? Just about all of the factions on the UK side have been positively apoplectic about any suggestion that the status of Northern Ireland could be undermined.

There might be a shitty Ireland situation. I don't see how it leads to unionists (of which there is a majority in NI) voting to leave the union.

At least we had a positive development recently. No deal was better than that horse shit.

Lol. So you were being totally disingenuous. The poll was on that basis that Labour supported a second referendum, which your hero Jezza does not.

No, that's exactly what I said. IF they offer a new referendum.

Vote until you get the results you like, eh? No thanks.

So really, right now, you should be supporting the Lib Dem’s and Sadia Khan rather than Jezza, right?

Go fuck yourself Adolf. This isn’t a matter for ignorant ramblings.

Oh, and crying to the mods because I’ve been giving your posts “GFY”? Pathetic...

I understand this objection very well and I don't think such a thing should be done lightly. There is a very high bar to be met before revisiting a previous referendum result. However in this case given how symbolically bad things appear to be turning out, I think it would be irresponsible not to do something.

The original referendum was deeply flawed in that it wasn't clear what people were actually voting for.

While it may sometimes seem like it at the moment, Brexit is not all that there is to politics.

Bad? This is a pretty darn good way for things to turn out.

A no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic. Even people within Teresa May's cabinet and her own Central Bank are saying that.

This post is as weasely as your refusal to admit Assange emboldened Trump’s election.

So you’re saying Corbyn’s domestic policies for Britain trump his position on Brexit...while you’re living in Ireland and would not having any benefit from his domestic policies? Hilarious.

I live on the northern side of the border, and you're sounding about as enlightened as those Americans who insist that we mind our own business about American politics.

I've been told by Very Serious People that the first Brexit referendum shall forever be the only Brexit referendum.

Is that starting to shift? If it ends up being No Deal, is that it, does the UK just have to take it or will the people and/or parliament get any say?

You've already had this answer already many time. You're reading like a troll trying to be clever on Brexit.

Parliament should always have a say. I'd argue it is constitutionally required.

So you're cool with Brexit then if Corbyn gives you, for instance, nationalised rail?

That doesn't follow. But I support Corbyn's Labour as the first chance in decades to mount a serious challenge to neoliberalism.
I'm conflicted about the second referendum so I have no problem with Labour also being conflicted. After the weekend it seems that they're moving in that direction anyway,

It follows because Labour's platform has been that they would respect the Brexit vote, which means in supporting Corbyn (a long ago outed Brexiteer) you're accepting their Brexit platform - and hinting at a new vote doesn't mean Labour will push to remain. Their muddled platform on Brexit so far has not promised anything of the kind.

You are politically supporting Brexit as a price for getting Corbyn. Why not just admit it?