Cabinet prepares for no-deal Brexit https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46600850 The unthinkable could involve, among other things, food and medicine shortages, and a 10% reduction in GDP over the next decade.
Corbyn has tabled a vote of no-confidence in May in Parliament. This stops short of such a vote in the government, which would have much more force and would trigger a general election if she lost it. Apart from embarrassing the Tory MP's who will now vote confidence in her as PM even though they have no confidence in her as party leader, I see little point in this.
It would be non legally binding and frankly a waste of time and effort. He couldn't gain the support for declaring no confidence in the government so his focus should be on policy, not forcing a general election right now.
At this point, the EU's contingency plans for a no-deal Brexit sound a lot more positive for the UK than the ones our own government are putting out, if only because minimizing the damage to their own members also means helping us: Of course, it's not all rosy:
Corbyn is trying to stop the Labour Party imploding in the same way as the Tories tried (and failed), so his entire plan is to not to have one and just shout down the government. That way every side of the Labour Party still feels like they can get their way, meanwhile we have no actual functioning opposition party when it comes to Brexit, just one who will vote against anything that comes up out of self-interest rather than national interest. Bit of a perfect storm really, Parliament must have a say from the Miller ruling, however Parliament is split along idealogical rather than party lines with two incredibly weak leaders and a collection of useless fucks masquerading as serious politicians, meaning deadlock was - in hindsight - obvious from the day of the ruling. May's stamina is of the private school Head Girl variety - must be strong for matron! - so I'm not giving her any credit for that. If she had the self-awareness to recognise she's useless, she's always been useless and, short of four amputations and a sandbag shortage, will always be useless, I'd applaud her. She hasn't though, so she's going through a charade to push her deal through via desperation rather than consent. Dangerous game since it's so obvious, and nobody else seems interested in playing.
Been a massive failing on the governments part not to prepare for a no-deal, rumour is this is down to edicts from Hammond. We've got something like a hundred days left If we get our shit together and unilaterally discard all tariffs for imports, we've got just enough time to set up of lines of goods. A lot of customs gets handled en route, and we can replace CHIEF fairly quickly with an off-the-shelf product that would suffice for now. And given France is likely to initially spike any future trade deal (access to UK fishing waters), we need to diversify our supply lines anyway - both for security and to underline they're not the only game in town. As to if that'll actually happen... I expect the few adults left in Whitehall will have things in motion already, with something being handed to the government and Parliament as fait accompli mid-March. And in case of No Deal, the EU were always going to come up with something reasonable in the interim - the Germans and the Dutch would take too big a hit, and neither nation can afford that given the shift from the centre.
Yeah, they're kicking up quite a fuss about stopping refugees from getting to the UK. All part of putting pressure on people over the forthcoming vote. And it's noticeable that ending free movement was one of the red lines that May did stick to in negotiations. Fuck knows how many people on the street, how many relying on foodbanks and this is their emergency.
Finally some signs that there might be a bit of movement somewhere. You'd need a degree in parliamentary procedure to understand what's going on, but it seems that parliament is taking back some control from the government, specifically by dictating that the latter can't plan for no deal and that in the event that May's deal falls (which it will) that they need to present another plan within 3 days. It's got Tories hopping mad with the speaker of the house as I type (since what he's done sets a precedent that severely weakens the executive branch), and I'm not sure how the government could have another plan within 3 days. But it's probably is for the good. Corbyn also says he'll finally put down a vote of no confidence if the deal falls. So I think we're possibly looking at a general election and an extension of Article 50.
An election does no bloody good given that Corbyn has said he still intends to take us out of the EU and May is quite correct that he has even less of a plan for Brexit than she does, at least not one he's going to get past the Commons unless he wins a secure majority (since it'll doubtless be a softer Brexit than is on offer). If he had any balls he'd promise a new referendum should he win.
Well, for one thing an election would probably result in Article 50 being extended, which is probably going to be necessary.
Brexit: Theresa May's deal is voted down in historic Commons defeat Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal has been rejected by 230 votes - the largest defeat for a sitting government in history. MPs voted by 432 votes to 202 to reject the deal, which sets out the terms of Britain's exit from the EU on 29 March. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has now tabled a vote of no confidence in the government, which could trigger a general election. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46885828
It was a horrible deal and no deal is vastly superior. The backstop with no end date or ability to ever change it alone was reason enough to flush that turd down the table.
That is complete nonsense. The claim about medicine is that the EU will stop exporting it and effectively embargo the UK. Which will never happen and even if it did they can just open up their markets to nonEU suppliers. So that threat is toothless. Also the worst case scenario wrt the economy is not that GDP will go down 10% but that future growth will be 10% slower. That assumes worst case scenario and that absolutely nothing changes for an entire decade which, again, is utter nonsense. Just more lies out of project fear.
@Dinner is back? Welcome back you bigoted piece of shit! How many benders did you go on while you were away? On a scale of zero to Humphrey Bogart, how is your alcoholism doing
Which obviously means free travel between the UK and Europe, since Europe and Ireland have free travel. In other words, it allows the main thing the Brexiteers wanted to stop.
Clearly Ireland is being unfair by not agreeing to cut themselves off from Europe due to the UK going insane.
Of course that's highly likely. If we have a free travel deal with Europe we may as well simply cancel the whole shebang. In fact, let's do that!
It took May nearly two years to hammer out this deal. What do the dissenters expect to have as an alternative before March 29? This is ludicrous. Labour is going to take advantage of the situation to win the government. But the only way out of this mess is to cancel Brexit. Which Labour says they won't do, but we'll see.
The sticking point is going to be Corbyn, who's always been a Euro skeptic. Frankly at this point I'd welcome a change in Tory leadership which was friendly to the Euro zone.
