Cam Newton goes pro!

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  1. Ward

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    Heisman winner, National Champion... What's left but to cash in big? Why would anyone risk a freak accident costing them millions?

    What do you think?
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    Will Daddy Warbucks be his agent?
  3. Ward

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    I didn't know that was his father's name. ;) If I were Cam, though, I think I'd get someone a little more discreet.
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    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    Im thinking that players should get their degrees so that when they flame out they have a half assed decent of getting a job.
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    Why? One season in the NFL would allow him to get 10 degrees without hurting.

    One game would set him up to go back and get his PHD.

    I haven't completed my bachelor's degree, but I make more money than 99% of my graduating high school class and have more disposable income than any of them that I'm aware of because I'm not pissing it all back in student loans.

    "A degree" is worth as much as the person getting it.
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  6. Captain J

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    Since this is the RR I presume going pro means he's become a paid male hooker? :unsure:




    ;)
  7. Ward

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    It's RR because we skated around it talking about college football in general.

    If you're interested in male hookers, talk to Volpone, he can probably hook you up. So to speak...
  8. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Let me clarify my above statement: I value education tremendously, and I actually want to go back and get my degree. The degree I want is in something I would have never in a million years studied 3, 4, or 10 years ago: Statistics. But as a small business owner who has based my entire business around paid search engine marketing and analytics, I realize this would help me the most!

    I also self-educate: I read at least one new book a week that is professionally helpful, and I'm addicted to Itunes U.
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  9. MikeH92467

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    For guys with Cam Newton's talent, college is a joke. Baseball has the fairest system: you can turn pro out of high school or go to junior college and sign after one or two years or you can go to a four year school and commit to three years of college. You figure there are six levels of minor leagues to get to the majors and three or four years of high level college ball, helps skip a couple of levels. Football's farm system is college. Why should they set up a farm system when they've already got one for free? There's really nowhere else to go (the UFL doesn't count yet). One thing college players can do is ask for an independent evaluation from a panel of experts about where they might go in the draft if they're thinking of turning pro. Even the dumbest asshole could be brought up short if they're told that they're not going to be a hot prospect. (For someone who's really made dumb decisions look up Jevan Snead).

    The NBA's developmental league is pretty much an afterthought.

    For Cam Newton and the minute fraction of players with his kind of talent forcing them into college is just a joke. Same thing in basketball.

    Apostle is correct: college isn't for everybody and it isn't necessary for everybody. Of course, the number of kids who think they have Cam Newton type talent versus those who really do is distressingly small, but that's a problem that falls in the category of personal choice. The more choices you have the more bad choices can be made, but I don't know of any way to solve that problem other than to make sure everyone knows what the realistic chances of making it as a pro athlete are.

    As for Cam Newton himself, he's probably going in the top 10, which under the current system means really big bonus money. He's got two (really one with two facets) problems: the league and the players are deadlocked on their new collective bargaining agreement which could mean the whole 2011 season goes down the drain in a worst case scenario. It's not likely, but then again, the owners have it written into their tv contracts that they get paid even if there is work stoppage. Also the one thing the owners and players seem to agree on is that the rookie bonuses are getting completely out of whack. You look at someone like JaMarcus Russell who got a huge contract from the Raiders coming out of LSU and he was a total bust. While someone like Matt Cassel, who was either a free agent or low round draft pick who's developed into a fine starting quarterback may or may not ever make as much for playing at a very high level as Russell did before ever taking a snap or sleeping through a team meeting. I expect Mr. Newton to do quite well, but it's going to be in a completely different context that what we've grown used to in the last few years.
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    Re: Cam Newton goes pro...AGAIN!

    Again!

    The thread title should be "Cam Newton goes pro...AGAIN!" :finger:

    I fixed it for you at the top of my reply! :ramen:

    And I predict that he will NOT be the first QB taken in the draft.
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    Just remember what SEC really stands for "Sure Everybody Cheats"!
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    I'm shocked that a SEC player won't get stay to get his degree. :bergman:
  14. Ward

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    Herschel Walker did the same nearly 30 years ago but he did finish his degree while playing pro football. I wonder what the line is on Newton doing something similar. :mystery:
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    Yeah- how'd that USFL thing work out for him? :bergman:
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    For him? Quite well. He made a lot of money. Then he went to the NFL and made a lot more! Turns out about the only thing that eluded Walker was a Super Bowl ring.
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    Like all running QB's, he will last a few seasons and never make the pro-bowl.
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    Cam Newton is definitely a work in progress. Someone call John Gruden!
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    The vast majority of 18-year old football players aren't physically developed enough to survive playing in the NFL. Even those at Newton's talent level.

    Sure, there are exceptions, but a senior in high school is still just a kid compared to the people he'll be competing with in the pros.

    I agree about basketball, though. It's not as physically demanding/dangerous as football and an 18/19 year old kid is on a much more even playing field there.
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    If I was in his position, I could always go back and get the degree if I wasn't too busy sampling international poon.

    You don't know what might happen in the senior year. Could get hurt. :shrug:
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    Some of the best NFL QB's were overlooked as college players. Many of the high profile college QBs flame out in the NFL.
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    There have been maybe 3 or 4 players in the last decade that could have made the NFL out of high school. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Adrian Peterson. Physically, he's not much different now than he was as a senior.
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    He played at Blinn before Auburn. There are plenty of players that can go pro after 2 seasons. He's 21 now and will be 22 before next season, if there is one with the strike coming.
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    Steve Young did quite well too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Young_(American_football)

  27. Demiurge

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    Young got his law degree though - he passed the bar while playing pro ball. The year he won the Super Bowl, was NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP no less.
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    Cam Newton ain't no Steve Young....yet.

    Newton had one good college season and people are already fitting him for his bust in Canton.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Agreed - he's likely to be a solid pro, but there's no way to know if his game will translate. Vince Young's certainly didn't, that's the closest comparison to Newton coming out of college. Though most analyst's seem to agree that Newton's throwing mechanics are better so he has a better chance of developing in the pros. Still, one year in college, the kid's going to have a lot to learn at the next level. The Redskin's evidently are salivating over him.
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    Vince Young still has maturity problems. He has the tools but not the maturity.

    The Redskins? I hope they don't go for Newton but you never know with Dan Snyder. They need a QB since they ran McNabb out of town but there are better ones in the draft, imo.