Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

I think what the cis person is not getting is that this is not something that happens in an instant. It is not a magic spell that happens and poof you are the other gender and you can never go back. It is like walking down a long road. Any time you want to get off and go a different direction you can. It is a choice of life that you make for you to make your life better. No one is telling you that you have to do it, you just know you have to do it.

It is like liking something. You do not have to like chocolate ice cream or be gay. It just happens. You can chose to eat what you like or have romantic relationships with who you like, or you can chose to eat or date who someone else tells you to. You can chose to express your gender as you please. The reality is gender expression is entirely a construct of the mind. Yes, that means I cannot be pregnant. I cannot menstruate. I can do anything else a woman can do. The reverse of that becomes true also, which is what really scares the people like @TheLonelySquire who enjoys feeling like he is better than every woman in existence because he is a man. Because if it is preferable for some to chose to present as female then male is not the automatic superior choice.

I am really beginning to realize being trans has knocked a large amount of very normal insecurity and fear out of me. I was terrified of it for the longest time, but I did not get trapped in a lot of social molds.

Neither of those statements address what I wrote, but okay.

How dare you question the MESSAGE!

Oh look, rimjob is on the same side of the line as the boy again. How interesting. You know who is also on that side again and again without fail? Tremp, Hitler, and Mike Lindel. I know when I find myself agreeing with these guys I must be right.

It's the same fucking message you supposedly believe in - let folk do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

And no, it ISN'T hurting kids. If anything, the opposite if the alternative is living their life feeling wrong. Ask Nova where she'd be if you'd forced her to stay male. My guess is dangling from a rope or bled out in a hot bath.

I’m not trying to force anyone to do anything. Nice try though.

I don't think anyone is superior to anyone else based purely on gender. That's ridiculous.

Making it impossible for someone to take a course of action IS forcing them.

I was going to go with the "but I wouldn't expect a child to understand" meme but you're fully aware of what you're doing and how hateful it makes you, and you don't give a shit.

I gotta say, this is not a phrase I expected to read.

Apparently, someone thinks my opinion is a fantasy. He must hold an opposite view. Good to know.

Asking people to maybe pump the breaks on giving kids hormone blockers, which they can’t consent to is not the same as making it impossible to take a course of action. People like you see any criticism of this transgender movement/trend as bigotry, it’s not. You’re once again full of shit.

Their whole worldview is a fantasy soooo.

Blockers are more easily reversible than puberty if the kid changes their mind.

Them's the brakes (learn the difference or I'll have to cut your break lines).

I'll listen to psychologists, and not to Nazi meme-makers, thanks.

Says a "Libertarian".

Okay so Jordan Peterson then.

I'm sure there are people that love golden showers. Don't kink shame

http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3418400/

FF's reptillian hindbrain- Don't ever have self-awareness! It'll kill you!! It'll KILL you!!! Flee!! Fleeee!!!

I’m plenty self aware. You repeating over and over that I’m not won’t make it any more true.

so was HAL...

How the fuck is some dipshit in the middle of VA who is taking high school biology involved in the medical decisions of children he does not even know exist? You are noikt helping kids by deciding ones who you have never met or examined should not get the medicine a doctor prescribed.

You are a bigot, that is a fact. You care nothing for the children because you would allow them to be raped by your lord and master trump. You have no knowledge of science. You make no examinations. You lie about what is going on.

You think Donald Trump won the last election and the kenedys are coming back from the dead to anoint him king.

The only thing you are aware of about yourself is the status of the last bits of your colon where your head is so firmly inserted.

I did address what you wrote. I had to, firstly, dismiss your supposition that a child questioning their gender is somehow extremist, and I also took a moment to note that people who are interested in the status of children's genitals might be more the extremist position. The truth of the matter is that it's none of your business. How a child feels about their gender is between that child, their parents/guardians, and a physician. The reason the transgender community has to be involved is because there are cisgender people who think they deserve to know who a child wants to fuck, and what they want to fuck with, and quite frankly I just see that as well beyond the pale, yet cisgender people who seem to interject into the lives of said children don't seem to mind. It's like when someone says they're trans, and there's always that person who asks if they've had "the operation," as if they have the right to know.

You don't have the right to involve yourself in deciding what a child should have between their legs or how they use it, because that's what these questions represent.

I really have no idea how you drew that from my post. What's extremist is the attitude of you, @Amaris, supposing that folks are either "with us or against us." Even a newspaper platforming the concerns of a transgender counselor is too much criticism of transgenderism for you to stomach, apparently, putting aside that no lifestyle choice is perfect and always involves risks and trade-offs.

I'll grant you that the life of any individual is unlikely to be my business. But in general, this is a social issue. It's everyone's business. Especially given your position that children questioning their gender is commonplace.

But if all you want to do is straw man and deflect my comments and deny that I have a right to an opinion, then what's the point in talking to you. That's a mistake if you want to win people over.

when I was 3-4 (early 70s), I liked to spin.
Then another little boy told me it was like ballet.
Of course, ballet was for girls... I stopped spinning unless I was sure nobody could see me after that.

Think about that for a second. Preschoolers shaming other preschoolers over gender perceptions.

I'm not sure how it's "everyone's business" nor do I think it's kids questioning their gender so much as creating and constructing one that fits them now. Sort of like how people allow their lawns to grow wild now rather than arranging everything into neat little ranks and rows, gen Z and those Alphas now entering their adolescence have enjoyed a world (learning to be) more accepting of their self expression and are mentally healthier for it. Sort of like how local air quality is improved by diversified flora... y'know? Our only business is to be supportive of individuals and as protective of their rights as we are of our own.


Now me... I'm not sure where I stand on GRS before the end of adolescence being that it's kind of a major body modification. OTOH, so is ballet instruction for 5 year olds.

But simply delaying the onset/completion of puberty? That sounds like something that can be controlled without permanent alterations, and supplemented to 'catch up' should that be the eventual wish.


Likewise, I'm no medical ethicist. But it strikes me that often changing the body to fit the brain is preferable (and less traumatic) to changing the brain to fit the body.

I didn't say it was commonplace, I said it was not extremist for anyone to to question their gender at any age.

I do find it horrifying that you knowing what's in a child's pants is everyone's business, though. I'm not being hyperbolic, either. THIS is the crux of it. There are congress persons, right now, who are in favor of genital inspections for children wanting to play sports in schools.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/06...-requiring-genital-inspections-school-sports/

If Rimjob thinks the job of genital inspector won't be swarming with pedophile applicants, he's the dumbest lifeform to draw breath on this planet.

Hormone blockers have always been the compromise solution for treating trans kids. If a trans boy has been living as such since before preschool, he's probably a pretty safe candidate to do top surgery on at 15.

Except ballerinos (boys) are commonplace in ballet productions and the craft requires a great deal of athleticism (a masculine trait). So perhaps the solution to your problem was for an adult to dissuade you and your classmates of the mistaken idea that this stereotypical behavior affected your “gender” when it absolutely didn’t.