Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

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Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Teh Baba

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  1. matthunter

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    By wrong people who are wrong.

    See: Trickle-down economics.
  2. 14thDoctor

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    The criticism I posted above is from the same Wikipedia page you just cited.

    Did you look at the criticisms of her book listed on the Wiki page and seriously consider whether or not those criticisms were valid? :chris:
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Okay so you just want to be a nitpicking dick, got it.:techman:
  4. matthunter

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    No, I'd like you to express yourself properly, as if you weren't a child.

    Because the "FF is a kid" stuff IS lame, but you KEEP slotting bullets back into the clip.
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  5. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It's not my fault people still call them podcasts, but they do.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast
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  6. matthunter

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    Your own post says a video podcast is called a vodcast i.e. it's not a podcast.

    And you wonder why we accuse you of not comprehending your own sources.

    :facepalm:
  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    The criticism of that book from Jack Turban seems valid.
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  8. Steal Your Face

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    Or you can just say video podcast, it's still a podcast.
  9. matthunter

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    In the same way a gin martini is a martini so if you put vodka in it doesn't fucking matter.

    And if you fuck your sister, it's just sex and not incest, right?
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  10. Steal Your Face

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    Interesting, I did find this. This woman says almost exactly the same thing that Abigail Shirier said on the vodcasts (happy now @matthunter ?) I watched almost verbatim.
    https://www.quora.com/How-common-is...n-possibly-to-the-point-of-transitioning-back
  11. steve2^4

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    What does detransitioning have to do with puberty suspension? If it's really a thing, then hormone blockers are a good thing.
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  12. Steal Your Face

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    I was trying to find an independent source for number of people who detransitioned and stumbled upon that quote I posted. I figured that post I quoted was a good summary of what Abigail Shiviel said in case anyone was interested and didn't want to watch the video I posted. Short answer to your question, nothing.
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    It’s very easy to find things on the internet that confirm what one wants to be true.

    That this article is written by a trans person may be all the proof someone needs but one person’s experience does not encapsulate the whole.

    No one is trying to pretend we have scientifically discovered all there is about gender dysphoria.

    The only thing people are asking is to be allowed to experiment and live their lives how they see fit.

    Research has shown trans women are not stronger, faster, or physically superior to cis women.

    So, as you don’t have a dog in this fight, I fail to see why you continue to argue against trans women.
  14. Steal Your Face

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    I'm not arguing against them, I just don't think children should be allowed to have hormone blockers until later on in life. I don't think that's a crazy idea. I'm not voting against their rights and I'm not trying to ban anything.
  15. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Even with parental consent? Because that's the part of this argument I was misunderstanding.
  16. Shirogayne

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    Fun fact: kids over 14 can get vaccinated without parental consent in 7 states because this anti-vax bullshit has gotten so wildly put of hand :async:
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    Just going off a search of trans kids who got to transition as teens in the 2010s versus ones that transitioned much older....the results speak for themselves on that.

    Even if that isn't the case for everyone, there's nothing of value to be gained by forcing someone to wait till their 20s to get work done.
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    Abigail Shriver is a fucking TERF, lol



    She's also a one of those "Big Tech is censoring us, waaaah!" crybabies, too.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/big-tech-crackdowns-cancel-culture-terrifying-abigail-shrier
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  19. 14thDoctor

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    By "later in life" do you mean "the point at which they'd no longer serve any purpose?" Because they're only effective when used at a specific age, and your objection is them being used at that age, so... :chris:
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  20. Fisherman's Worf

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    So I gather from this thread (which I have avoided like the dumpster fire I'm sure it is) that Federal Farmer's parents are using hormone blockers to keep him a child forever.
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  21. 14thDoctor

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    "Kids are turning trans because it's trendy" is the stupidest fuckin' thing I've ever heard, by the way.

    Even Alex Jones seems to have a better understanding of why more people are openly identifying as transgender lately. :async:
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  22. Nova

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    Says the cold blooded SOB who's never buried their child and doesn't even have one to worry about.

    Fuck off into the sun.
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  23. Nova

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    Not seeing the part of this that says for minors.Let's see what ONE MORE CLICK reveals...

    We offer transgender hormone therapy using an informed consent model. That means you do not need to participate in therapy or get a referral to receive your hormone therapy. We support our patients in making the decision that is best for them.


    Patients must be at least 16 years old and post-puberty to qualify for this service. You’ll need to bring a parent or guardian to your first visit, if you are under the age of:


    • 18 if you visit a health center in Iowa, Minnesota, or South Dakota.
    • 19 if you visit a health center in Nebraska.





    Well wouldja look at that? Dumb ass.
    Which is a strong argument FOR the blockers having been the right choice, because the almost complete absence of desistence before HRT indicates the kid was right all along.
  24. Nova

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    Shrier is a grifter building her profit model by impressing gullible know-nothing marks like yourself.

    Indeed, that's basically the entire conservative media business model.
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  25. Nova

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    Only indirectly - the direct fault is with the parents, the indirect fault lies with people like Shrier and Ryan Anderson and Andrew Walker and Jesse Sengal and a dozen others, who lie to these parents for fun and profit. The third order fault lies with those who empower those liars, either clickbait kings like Rogan, or those who feel empowered by the grifters to lean into their pre-existing natural bigotry.
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  26. Summerteeth

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    Hello everyone! Currently isolating because I tested positive for Covid last week and trawling the internet for something to do.
    I think “trendy” is a ridiculous way to put it, but can understand an uptick in the want to delay puberty, especially FtM.
    I hated the thought of, and the early years of puberty. I started my periods at 11, whilst still at primary school. Even though I knew what was happening, I found it traumatic at first.
    The minute you start developing, it can feel like you are sexually objectified by the world. Some kids just aren’t ready for it. Male peers, hormone fuelled themselves, are clumsy with boundaries. Older men can gawp or get touchy feely, and it’s intimidating. It might be the way I’m remembering things, but the jump from being kid to seen as a sexual being was sharp.
    I can empathise why some girls may think “transing out” of societal sexualisation is the answer nowadays. As well as dysphoria I think there probably is some answers found in there.
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  27. Nova

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    Your escelation of this little scenario betrays your malevolent intent. Just like the TERFs and the Pharisees, the "think of the children" masks slides right off if you talk long enough.

    And the idea of belittling the experience of trans kids with bullshit analogies about eating veggies is quite enough for me to conclude that you and your bullshit are unworthy of any more of my attention. Begone, foul demon.
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    Summerteeth sighting!

    I tested positive for Covid last week as well, so I'm also locked up in my office (where I sleep on the couch). But in my case, I'm fairly convinced it's a false positive. I'm doing fine.

    Hope you do as well as I am!
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    Aw sorry to hear - get well soon! Hopefully back into a comfy bed soon. I’m asymptomatic and climbing the walls with boredom :lol:
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    Whereas I have plenty to do, but all from in front of a screen!

    And the couch in my office is comfortable enough, it's just lonely...
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