Comic book sales are down because diversity sucks. Or....

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  1. K.

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    OMG! White cis males will have to mix with industry at any one of the other literally hundreds of other booths or panels, without any special support! And with straight white males in such short supply in the industry, too!

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  2. Zombie

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    That you can't see that it's discrimination is typical of the dumb leftist you are.

    There are no other mixers for the industry people where industry people can meet and greet each other and exchange their business cards and resumes. These mixers aren't panels, booths, or meetings for fans. This is for people in the industry.

    In fact it's even discrimination against the minorities.

    Will a straight black woman or male be allowed in the LGBT mixer? Will a white gay man be allowed in the People of Color mixer?

    The reality is that in those three mixers no white straight male is allowed. Even if the straight white male has zero problem with POC, LGBT, or women.

    If there was a mixer for white straight men only you'd rightly call foul on that.

    You're a hypocrite.
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  3. Zombie

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    Liberals wanted everyone to be equal. Everyone to be invited to the same functions.

    But today's leftists, who are no longer liberal, like Packard? They have absolutely no problem with forcing segregation on people. The hilarious part is they don't realize that they are the new Jim Crow supporters.
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    Ignoring the political crap, Marvel tried an experiment where instead of hiring comic book writers, they created characters like America Chavez, for example, a Latina lesbian, and then hired a Latina lesbian to write the stories in what I'm guessing as an attempt to write a more authentic character. The problem is that the writer sucks either at writing in the format of comic books, or has no writing experience at all. It's how you end up with a hulk comic where the hulk doesn't smash anything.
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    The current America series does indeed suck, which is a shame, because the character was excellent in the two previous series she appeared in. (And yes, she was already both Latina and lesbian in those.)

    IMO, they should have noticed their mistake somewhere around that part of the pitch that must have read,

    "America Chavez is one of the AAA-level superheroes in the Marvel Universe; she can literally kick holes into the fabric of reality and has arrived in our world from what used to be a realm of Gods. We have established that she is technically superior to Vision, Ultron, and Thanos. In her last adventure, she saved the Young Avengers by facing down a combined evil of one ancient deity controlling all the minds of all adult humans and that was at the same time eating the very essence of reality, and the schemes of evil old Loki himself.

    As her next challenge, we are sending her to college, where she will first struggle, but then quickly manage, to make friends."
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  6. K.

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    Would you like me to answer that post as if you were equal to any other human being, or with special regards for the ways in which you are different from most people I meet?
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    You don't hire people who match the characters. Hiring a Latina lesbian because the character was Latina lesbian is stupid. Unless the Latina lesbian is an actual writer.
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  8. Diacanu

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    "Diversity is white genocide", sounds more noble, and heroic, and mainstream if you turn "white genocide", into garden variety "discrimination".

    Look at how Zombie is willing to die on that hill.

    What an impressive little dupe he is.

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  9. Zombie

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    There is nothing wrong with diversity. Diversity is a good thing.

    But you can't tell me that barring one group of people from these meetups because they are straight, white, and male is making things more diverse.

    When you exclude people that's the opposite of diversity.
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    And that's just the surface level of it, just wait until a demographic member tries to join when they have dissenting opinions. They aren't big on diversity of thought, either.
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    How about you answer the question as to why you think discrimination based on race, sex, and sexual preference are good things and why you are supporting segregation based on those arbitrary attributes? :bailey:
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    Gladly, but again, first tell me if you think I should answer you as if all humans are equal, or not.
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  14. Diacanu

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    So long as whitey gets to do all the talking.
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    If you support this example of discrimination and segregation, apparently you do not view all humans as equal.
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  16. K.

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    Coward.

    I do not believe that all humans have equal chances to break into industry, no.
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    Ah, so you have the bigotry of low expectations. :diacanu:
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    Yes, I have long learned that you can't follow an argument. And you're still a coward, too.
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    It's funny how you think calling me a coward in the face of saying you support discrimination and segregation actually means anything. :lol:
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  20. Diacanu

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    Post 200!!! :finger:
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  21. Zombie

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    So your solution is to exclude a whole class of people?

    I'm surprised you're not up for excluding Jews as well since as a group they make up a significant portion of the industry.
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  22. Zombie

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    And as always you show that you're a walking cunt.
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  23. K.

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    Out of tiny little measures designed to give others at least a fraction of the chances they had? Yeah.

    When you start with massive inequality, you cannot reach equality without doing things from which the disadvantaged profit more than the advantaged. That's a basic logical necessity.
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  24. Diacanu

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    Zombie and Captain X's little narrative that they're champions of equality would stick to the wall better if they'd ever actually been champions of equality previously, instead of crying for the plight of the oppressed white man, and only whipping out the equality card to one-up anyone they hate as a troll weapon.
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  25. Zombie

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    Nope.

    You're wrong.

    All you're doing is creating new resentment.
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  26. Diacanu

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    Oh, don't you know?
    Equality is achieved by pretending it's already there.
    You can just ignore inequality away.
    Ask the suffragettes, and Martin Luther King, and Ghandi, and Harriett Tubman.
    They just plugged their ears and hummed, and in a puff of twinkling fairy dust, everything was peachy.
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  27. K.

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    Name one measure that reduces inequality without preferring the previously disadvantaged.

    Can you prove that the industry mixers provide no advantage to those who attend?
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  28. Diacanu

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    And the answer to that is "fuck off".
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    Why would a white, straight, cis man want to go to a POC or LGBTQ mixer? All I can think of is to hit on women or as some pathetic power trip. It's not like those are the only mixers there. It's entitlement, "I'm a white man so I deserve to go anywhere or it's racism."

    Fucking whiny losers.
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  30. Diacanu

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    Zombie!! Captain X!!
    Guess what!?!?!
    The NAACP lets in honkeys!
    Always has!!
    Aren't you excited!?
    Join up!
    Show us your membership cards!!
    :polarslam2:

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