Comic book sales are down because diversity sucks. Or....

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  1. Zombie

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    Those are the only mixers for the industry people.

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    That’s not what it says. It says there are no mixers specifically dedicated to straight white males.

    Do you have a source on that, by the way? I’m not liking the recent trend of throwing out screenshots without attribution.
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    I need a source. I can use my iPhone to make similar screenshots, so if I can fake it I have trouble trusting it.
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    I can't prove that the guy who took it didn't fake it but if you go to the Emerald City Comic-Con site you will see these three industry mixers:

    Industry Women & Genderqueer Mixer

    Industry People of Color Mixer

    Industry LGBTQIA Mixer

    The only source I can find so far is one I don't like: https://pjmedia.com/trending/segregation-comic-con-no-straight-white-males-allowed-parties/

    Even with that I don't see it as a false one because comic-conventions have been open about banning conservatives and Emerald City Comic-Con would have said this was a fake by now.
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    PJMedia is a highly biased source with a history of making false claims, so I can't trust it. I did some Googling and the only other sources are similar sites, using PJMedia as their source. It looks specially designed to fit into the narrative that white straight cis males are being persecuted by minorities, which is absurd. The listed mixers seems just for certain groups who may not normally get to meet each other because they are a minority in the comic industry and probably rarely get to meet. There's almost certainly a mixer for all the industry guests, which is something that every convention does. Those are just listed because they're liking trying to attract more guests to attend, using them as an incentive.
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  6. Zombie

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    I've looked all over and those are the only three industry mixers.

    The rest are fan theme stuff.
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    Calm down chicken little, save some for tomorrow just in case they have not come for you yet.
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    You mean the comic book industry is not snubbing most of it's people and @Zombie was triggered by fake news and his desire to be a victim?

    Now there is a shocker. Next thing you will tell me I am tldr or Anna is black, or perhaps Dayton makes many humorous statements. Perhaps the sky is still up and Donald trump is still a fucking moron too.
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    I'm being told right now that water is wet. I repeat, water is wet.
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  10. Zombie

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    It's not fake news. It might not be from the best source but it's accurate.
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    Then prove it, all you have is an easily faked screenshot.
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    Industry Women & Genderqueer Mixer

    Industry People of Color Mixer

    Industry LGBTQIA Mixer

    All from Emerald City Comic-Con. If you're not in those "categories" you are not invited those days.
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    Shocking news that I totally didn’t just make up.
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    I demand a response from @Zombie.
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    Someone get him in the freezer before his snowflake ass melts!

    It's ok, we know you are a victim. We believe you, really we do.
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    The public attending the convention aren't included either.

    Also white men can go to the LGBTQIA mixer, as long as they are in one of those groups.
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    So that is why my dog is afraid to go outside. Don't worry @Zombie I hate my dog so I will kick him out for you tonight. You are welcome.
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    That's already been pointed out. By me. It's industry mixer. But it's also discriminatory.

    And I don't see the S in LGBTQIA.
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    How are white straight cis men discriminated against by minority groups having mixers? It's for disadvantaged groups to meet up and swap business cards while drinking. Do you feel that white straight cis men aren't being fairly represented in the comic industry despite being the majority of the writers and artists? Are they forbidden from meeting up and swapping business cards?
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    You also need to explain why you're fucking dogs.
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    It's not fake news, it's clearly just as plausible as the one you posted.

    It isn't easy to send iMessages to yourself, remove the original messages and carefully edit out who is sending them. It makes perfect sense that a major comic convention would use an iPhone Messages app for all official communication with guests instead of emails or phone calls.
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  20. Zombie

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    If there was at least one mixer for everyone than there wouldn't be a problem. But this comic-con has decided to exclude one group of people based on their skin color.

    And while white men are a majority in the comic industry that doesn't mean they should be barred from seeking opportunities like other people.
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    What makes you think there isn't a general mixer? Not everything they do is listed on websites? You're basing all of this on a highly biased website pushing an agenda. If they did, it wouldn't let you know that.
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    Shocking behind the scenes news from TNZ.
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    To talk, to learn, to have a good time? :shrug:

    There’s a whole bunch of positive things that can arise from being inclusive in this instance, however the exclusionary garbage in your post there automatically assumes there’s literally nothing positive that can come about and goes even further to call any presence by a white guy predatory.

    Not a good look
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  24. Awesome Possum

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    That's what the rest of the convention is for. If they were banning white straight cis men from the convention, then that is discrimination. I'm not convinced that there isn't a general mixer since our only "proof" is an easily hoaxed screenshot.
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  25. Zombie

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    You don't have to pay attention to the screenshot. The proof is Emerald City's own website. It lists all the events. All of 428 of them.

    Anime/Manga, Books, Comedy, Comics, Community, Cosplay, Diversity & Inclusion, Gaming, Graphic Novels, Kids & Family, Movies, Music, Professional, Toys, TV, and Well-being.

    Out of the 428 events there are only three industry mixers. They are the three I mentioned above. There is no general industry mixer. If there was this would be a non-issue.

    BizarroEnt is trying to imply that Emerald City doesn't put everything on it's website but I'd have to say they were pretty through in putting everything on their website. So we can infer from the lack of it that there is no General Industry Mixer that is available to everyone.
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    How do you know how these mixers even work? A lot of these events are private parties that the convention hosts, any group is allowed to have a party. When I go to conventions I go to a lot of parties. Most allow all congoers to attend, some are for specific fan groups or for people who pay extra. No one is being discriminated against if they aren't included. These mixers appear to be small events for very specific groups who may not get to meet each other any other time and are likely privately funded since I doubt the convention is going to pay extra for it. Most conventions basically make enough to pay for themselves and really aren't making a huge profit. Allowing everyone in defeats the entire purpose of these small groups getting to meet and given the limited floorspace, it may be impossible to allow everyone in. There are many variables involved, but you want to boil it down to it being unfair to white men who are the vast majority of the industry and don't face the same obstacles that other groups do. If Marvel had a mixer for Marvel artists and writers, is it unfair for DC artists and writers to not attend?

    But you're making a lot of assumptions based on likely misinformation. So actually apply logic to it, if you are capable.

    If you can't, then in the words of so many conservative men, life isn't fair and you don't always get what you want.
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  27. Zombie

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    Ridiculous. I've already given enough proof. That you want to deny it is not my problem.

    "If Marvel had a mixer for Marvel artists and writers, is it unfair for DC artists and writers to not attend?"

    If Marvel had a mixer for Marvel artists and writers that would not be called a mixer. It would be called a company meeting.

    If Marvel had a mixer for people who wanted to work at Marvel than I'm sure Marvel would not exclude anyone since they would be looking for talent to hire. Same with DC.
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    It's easily discredited proof, especially since there is nothing to back it up. I'd call it a claim, much like UFO sightings.

    Otherwise I have proof that you fuck dogs.
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  29. Zombie

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    The proof comes from Emerald City Comic-Con's own website. You can not discredit that.
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    The implication of this is that if whites and blacks are in the same room, blacks will be unable to compete with whites for the attention of industry pros, no matter how outstanding their work.

    Really?

    Same thing with straights vs. gays. Gays can't get their portfolio's looked at if a breeder is in the room?

    The whole thing is stupid. What the industry cares about is talent, because superior talent means good reviews, which means increased sales. Money money money. If you can help Marvel, DC, Image, Dark Horse pull in more sales, they don't care if your green with purple polka dots and anal violation by horny gophers.
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