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Order2Chaos · Aug 9, 2019

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During the flight, he told us how he started bartending, then working construction, then working for a utility company climbing telephone poles and shit. Then, he up and decides to start his own construction company. Turns it into some huge-ass coastal deal and sold it to another concern last year for enough tens of millions of dollars (at least) that he can afford to fly his golf buddies and himself up and down the coast in a 40 million dollar private jet.

Riddle me this: In what other nation on Earth can you do something like that, and with the apparent frequency that it happens in America? Or at least, do it and not have better than three quarters of the fruits of your labor thieved off by the government for the 'benefit' of the masses?
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You do realise that social mobility is lower in the US than in most of the developed world? That is, your rich people mostly haven't earned it, and your poor people have a greater chance of remaining poor.

Do you care? Or is this rhetoric just to make you feel better?
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Good question (you lying liar from liarsville; we all know it's a lie because it's something that *you* said). Please support this lie.

Put another way - do you care? Or is are your lies rhetoric just to make you feel better?

Fact (from economist T. Sowell, “Discrimination and Disparities;" it's a short book, but you can't read it because your head would explode within a few pages): about 3% of people in the US remain in the bottom 20% for as long as 8 years. You pull out an actual fact instead of making up lies, and I'll provide you another.

Marso is of course talking about economic mobility - we're not UK or India with an ingrained class or caste system, and few have the same aspiration of social mobility. So please check that particular error of yours when you present the basis for your lies. [ps: US is also the most racially integrated country on the planet, not the hotbed of racism your brainwashers have taught you.]
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I'm not sure why you think what you quoted refutes what I said. "About 3% of people in the US remain in the bottom 20% for as long as 8 years." Assuming that's true, so what? What has it got to do with the comparison to elsewhere?

Here and here are some details regarding how the US compares in social and economic mobility (I'm using the terms interchangeably) to other countries. It's not a pretty picture and it's strongly linked to the degree of inequality that exists in your society. It is part of the national myth that America is the "land of opportunity" and claims such as the one @Marso made are routinely offered and accepted as articles of faith. There was in the past some element of truth to it but that has long since gone.
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I don't think that IG educational attainment is a good proxy for IG income mobility, at least once the bulk of the population hits a certain level (so for instance, it's much less relevant in the US than in, say, sub-Saharan Africa, and much less relevant in China now than it was 30 years ago), and the article and report don't really give a reason to use it as one.

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