Dayton3's first day as President

So that's worse than Dayton nonchalantly dismissing the crimes?

No, but it doesn't have to be pounded into the ground. Dayton obviously doesn't believe he's done anything wrong.

But he clearly has. I don't see why it's wrong to point out. It's obviously done in the faint hope that Dayton realises why his cavalier attitude isn't good.

Perhaps.

I believe I've done many things wrong. To what degree is what I debate. And all of them that are being dwelt on were more than ten years ago.

Why, in your mind, does the passage of time reduce the severity of the incident?

Is a murder ten years ago less important than a murder two years ago?

We're not talking about a murder El Chup.

Time matters because if you don't repeat some type of behavior for a decade one can logically presume that such behavior is not part of your character and not part of a greater character flaw.

But since you mentioned it El Chup, you do realize that if someone committed a murder in the United States 10 years ago and was quickly tried and convicted of it, on average they would be out of prison by now? They would be free and considered to have "paid their debt" to society.

And yet ten years later you still thought you were clever for fleeing the scene of a car accident. So I would say that such behaviour clearly still is part of your character since you see nothing wrong with it.

And what of the person who committed a murder ten years ago and got away with it?

I thought it was clever. Still do. Never said I thought it was right.

If you thought it was clever, then you haven't learned from it. What you should be feeling is ashamed.

That is your opinion El Chup. You're no expert on how other people should feel. And far, far, far, far from an expert on how I should feel.

And that's why he'll continue to get pounded.

I'm not El Chup.

Why waste your efforts?

He really is an idiot you know.

Sorry.

Oh, I get that. I certainly don't expend much energy on his ass, but I can understand why others do.

@Dayton3, I've committed crimes in my past, I'm currently being punished for one. I also grew up in a christian household and grew up watching a little show called Star Trek which helped me understand morality. I know a thing or two about how you should feel. When I committed my crimes, I thought I was clever, when I got caught and punished, I felt ashamed. If you still think it was clever, then you have learned nothing.

I don't realize that.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Average person convicted of murder in the United States serves just over 8 years if I recall the stats correctly. Feel free to tell me if I'm in error.

A guy I worked with at Walmart back in the 1990s killed his mother and served four years. He got out and went back to Texas.

Refusing to learn from his constant firings is all you need to know about Dayton's capacity for self reflection.

While necessary to a certain degree navel gazing is overrated.

So is earning an income apparently in your world.....

Bureau of justice statistics says 20.6 years.

Nonetheless your argument should focus on recidivism. The recidivism rate for paroled murderers is shockingly low. After 3'years of release less than 2,% are returned to prison for any conviction.

I've had a full time job for 27 of the last 28 years.

So as much as you enjoy the repeated jabs and insults your claim is in fact not true.

Why are you not still in your first teaching job?

At Hermitage they hired a new head football coach and bumped the head coach that was there (a fellow I liked and still like a great deal by the way. He was like an older brother to me) to my job and dismissed me.

Are you serious El Chup? If you knew anything about high school coaching you would realize that virtually no coach stays a decade in the same job.

Why would they want to? Most coaches at the high school level move every two to four years.

The guy who got the head coaching job at my old high school is on his FIFTH coaching job since I coached against him in 2005. And he is restricted to a limited geographic area due to his ex wife and kids.