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Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by We Are Borg, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    That's the entire basis of Christianity, you doofus. :facepalm:
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  2. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I thought the "entire basis of Christianity" was forgiveness of a persons sins through Jesus Christ.
  3. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    You wish. :shrug:
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  4. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    more as one of the better expressions of it.

    what did you disagree with?
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  5. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I believe that "helping the poor and downtrodden" is only a facet of Christianity. Not its basic purpose.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    It’s one of those “you will know the tree by its fruit” things.
  7. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Oh, no... not the basic purpose, just part of that purpose.

    I take it you disagree with charity and possibly hope?
  8. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    He believes strongly in the former, but more from the receiving end than the giving side.
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  9. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    pertinent

    If there’s one thing the Millennial Generation is known for, it’s their love of everyone regardless of their differences. Perhaps that is why they see the turn Christianity has taken to intolerance and has become far too conservative.


    A poll from the Public Religion Research Institute revealed that the recent decline in people describing themselves as a particular religion, the Daily Beast cited.



    The generation born between 1980 and 2000 is the most diverse generation in historyand was raised during the rise of the LGBT rights movement and strive for equality. So, seeing anti-choice, anti-LGBT white evangelicals co-opting Christianity and supporting President Donald Trump to the tune of 75 percent, isn’t exactly good for the religion’s branding.


    According to surveys by the Pew Foundation, 23 percent of Generation X (born before millennials in 1965-1980) claim no religious affiliation. That number shoots up to 34 percent of older millennials (born between 1981-1989). It’s even higher, 36 percent for younger millennials (born between 1990 and 1996). The Washington Post conducted their own survey in 2017 that had similar results.


    The shift didn’t happen with Trump, however. There was a time that former President Bill Clinton had a strong relationship with the late Rev. Billy Graham, whose son Franklin Graham has taken his father’s somewhat compassionate conservatism and turned it into rants about morality while justifying Trump’s adultery.


    An important moment in the life of millennials came during the 2004 election, when Karl Rove and the right-wing collaborated to put nearly a dozen initiatives on the ballot to outlaw same-sex marriage during the 2004 election. It mobilized 10 million evangelicals to the polls and ushered in a wave of Republicans. Churches across the country railed against the immorality of homosexuality, bumping up against pop-culture icons coming out of the closet and anti-bullying campaigns aimed at teens.


    White evangelicals have coopted mainstream Christianity, and an entire generation has never lived in an world without hypocritical pastors worshiping the almighty dollar and begging the poor to send Jesus their retirement funds.


    Then there is Christianity’s science problem. Rather than embracing science and finding new ways to frame religion around kindness, humility or service, the evangelical movement has fought tooth and nail to ban science. From textbook lies to biology rewrites that demand teaching a religious text next to religious text, the right wing has tried to turn an generation into being science-stupid. They might win small battles with Baby Boomers but they’re losing the long-term war with the largest generation in history also being the most educated in history.


    Global, the decline in Christianity has been steady over time. Western European countries, Australia and New Zealand have all seen declines in religious affiliation. The United States has historically maintained it’s stronghold. Until now. The Beast points out that the decline in the U.S. is unprecedented in American history. “Until the last decades of the 20th century, they fell in line with the denominational attachments of their parents.”


    While millennials share very close relationships with their parents, they’ve formulated their own ideas and opinions. Today, millennials have now become key influencers in changing the culture and the minds of Baby Boomers along with it.


    The days of Focus on the Family and Pat Robertson warning you about the evil homosexuals coming to take your soul are coming to an end — and they might take the majority of Christianity down along with it.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    "charity" in the Bible use of it does not refer to assisting the poor and needy. "charity" as used in the Bible is a word for "love".
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  11. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    so

    “Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same.”
    — Luke 3:11

    doesn't apply?



    how about


    "Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.”

    — Hebrews 13:2


    maybe

    “Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.”

    — Ecclesiastes 4:9-12


    of course, OT doesn't count, right?

    “This is what the Lord requires of you: Do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with your God.”

    — Micah 6:8
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I don't disagree with any of that. But it still doesn't make assisting the poor and downtrodden the be all, end all of Christianity. IIRC the New Testament makes clear that one is not saved through "works". And assisting the poor by any reasonable measure would constitute a "work".
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    And as we all know, whether it's his career or his religion, Dayton will only ever do the bare minimum to get by. :bergman:
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I really do not know where you get that idea. I've worked hard at my jobs and committed lots of time and money to my church.
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  15. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    Working hard to get fired is not working
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  16. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    once again, I never claimed it was the "be all, end all".
    I simply cited the first three of the seven claimed christian virtues and referred to where I felt they were exemplified.
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  17. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    And yet...:lol:
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  18. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    You are un-fucking-believable. :no:
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  19. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Remember Picard speaking to Data in "Peak Performance"?

    "It is possible to make no mistakes and still lose"
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  20. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    And you’re Data?
  21. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Nothing like that. Just felt the saying was interesting and on point.
  22. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I went to school with a girl named Charity, a few years ago when I went back home to visit, I hooked up with her. She gave me some "Charity".
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  23. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Except that’s not the case.

    But...whatever helps you sleep at night, head coach.
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Don’t be ridiculous.

    Data eventually got an emotion chip.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I am also pretty sure the illogical hypocrisy of Dayton would overload data's positronic matrix in less than a microsecond and cause a crushed warp bubble to encompass the universe and implode it.
  26. matthunter

    matthunter Ice Bear

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    Data's ethical program seemed a bit more robust than Dayton's. Of course, his wasn't 2000 years old. Though it was written by a horny old man who wanted immortality and fame. Perhaps Juliana helped out? She was responsible for the whole "wears clothes" bit, thus sparing us Spiner's bare ass for seven seasons.
  27. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I always figured you relied on the kindness of strangers.
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  28. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    That works too, no commitment afterwards. It's a win-win situation.
  29. matthunter

    matthunter Ice Bear

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    Love 'em and leave 'em.

    Or in D's case, ram the back of their car and then drive off without exchanging insurance details.
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    Big deal. Dayton doesn't need an emotion chip to have a sense of wonder.

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