Defund the Police

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    It's just breaking right now, but police arrested the cop a short time ago and he's being charged with two counts of aggravated assault.
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    Also, the kid the cop shot is still on life support so it's entirely possible that the assault charges (which could send the officer to prison for 99 years) could become murder charges. :mad:
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    but he was reaching for a french (err.. freedom) fry.

    anyone could reasonably mistake that for a gun and is justified in eliminating the threat.

    right, UA?
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    Eat a bag of dicks. On a big plate with your curdled poutine gravy shit.
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  6. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    why... you looking for an excuse to feel threatened?
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  7. Tuckerfan

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    So, is it a crime if you fail to act when someone tells you that they think a person has been kidnapped?
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    sounds sickeningly familiar

    https://www.mmiwg-ffada.ca/

    but I'm sure the usual bunch will tell us how the law protects everyone equally and/or how their poor life choices lead them to such unfortunate outcomes.
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    That same article also says this:

    Focusing on finding alternative responses to emergency calls is Defund The Police 101. They're just avoiding the specific term because it's a lightening rod for pushback. :shrug:
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    It was a horrible name which has now been used to demonize the whole idea and to overcompensate in the other direction. The dems are declaring they want to fund the police more and niot hold them as accountable because defund the police was not what anyone actually wanted. It was a motto designed to gaslight the police and the right instead of expressing the actual good ideas that were beinjg fought for at the time.

    It was like the police and the right infiltrated the movement to reform the police, and sabotaged the whole thing by making such a slogan that legitimately scared the hell out of people who recognized we need police, but we do not need a corrupt gang of violent white nationalism roaming our town under the guise of policing.

    We should have traffic and parking enforcement. But they do not need guns. We should have response to psychotic episodes, but that should be different than a SWAT response. We should have SWAT response for violent ongoing incidents, but that should not be in regards to some drunk fighting in a bar. In reality a specialized police force with the ability to properly dispatch and train people for their role is probably going to need more funding. if you want to demilitarize the police that is something we can probably do. You do not need military equipment to patrol a neighborhood.
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    And now even cops whose budgets are increasing are whining about being defunded.

    https://www.wonkette.com/no-one-is-defunding-police

    Across the nation, cops are talking about how crime is increasing as a result of their departments being defunded en masse. Sheriff Alex Villanueva of Los Angeles, who is currently running for re-election, has held multiple press conferences addressing the issue, talking about how defunding has just made it impossible for police to keep the city safe.

    "We're operating at 0.9 cops per 1,000 residents," Villanueva said in a recent press conference. "We have basically a skeleton operation."

    Alas, none of that is literally true. Rather, they are operating at three cops per 1,000 residents, higher than the national average of 2.5 cops per 1000 residents, and its budget has actually increased by $260 million since 2019.​

    Another fun tidbit from the article: there's reams of data showing that throwing more money at cops does nothing to decrease crime, but what does significantly decrease crime is having a higher number of social service nonprofits.
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    You know the great thing about charities? You are free to dump as much of your own money as you please into them. No sanctimonious posturing necessary.
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    so you're suggesting what? policing be funded by GFM and a couple of bake sales?

    also:


    that was the first milk snorting laugh I've had in a long time...
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    The implication that lowered crime rates should only be a goal if support for that can be crowd funded is such peak 21st century internet libertarian cliche that I'd think you were trolling if not for your history.
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    Tough on crime?
    More at the link.
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    The IIB under Boudin withheld exculpatory evidence in what I think was the O'Neil case. Even cops deserve a fair trial.
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    Berkeley officer claims he's been given a quota of 100 arrests a month.
    More at the link.
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