Developing: House Whip, Some of Staff Shot

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  1. TheLonelySquire

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    I seriously doubt you'd be a threat in any case.
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    Okay, so *now* we’re concerned about this breeding more violence. :brood:

    And I'll state for the record that I don't support or cheer this man at all
    But it's telling how some have become almost giddy because you got a loony leftist to prove what we've been saying this whole time: we have a fucking gun problem in this country. :bailey:
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    Interview with Scalise last year about Obama and gun control.

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    Lack of oxygen probably wouldn't alter your posting style much, I agree.
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    Why is gun control any kind of issue here at all? Didn't the gunman use a rifle? I don't know of any actual or even suggested gun control legislation that would prevent a person from obtaining a rifle and ammunition for it.

    Kind of like the Virginia Tech shootings. Never had the least impact on gun control because neither of the weapons used would ever be impacted by gun control laws.

    You can't get rid of gun access in the United States.

    You could dial back the over the top political rhetoric.
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    That would make him a rifleman, wouldn't it?
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    I've heard reports that he used an "assault" rifle, which are frequently discussed when talking about bans and restrictions.
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    "assault" rifle is largely a generic term people use of "rifles that look really mean"
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    I don't disagree but that doesn't change the fact that some people want them banned.
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  13. Tuttle

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    Thankfully it did, and this leftie liberal Democratic party nutjob was put down quickly by a competent LEO before a massacre and real tragedy might have occurred.

    I'm no fan of the hypocrisy and double-standards demonstrated by most of those who pose as public servants called Congress, but I truly don't want to see them executed or martyred under any circumstances. Particularly an incident like today, that was so clearly motivated by liberal insanity (more extreme than usual) and enabled by today's tone - the disrespectful, often hateful, rhetoric and invective so popular and glibly justified by a very large chunk of today's 'modern liberals.' It's not just nutjobs like dinner or doc that post daily bites of hate on tiny unimportant message boards either; nope, now it's tolerated and often even perpetrated by what in the past were solid citizens of some prestige and responsibility, e.g. in charge of editorial decisions at mass media outlets, but today are just peddlers of garbage and fueling various forms of hate in forms both subtle and gross. Fucking sad.
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    I dont see any evidence or proof that this shooting was politically motivated. Perhaps he hated baseball.
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    yes, you are correct - not enough sane people carry them. Any thoughts?
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    he hated Trump, loved Bernie Sanders. Regardless, he was mentally unstable. Bernie Sanders said he was wrong to attack Republicans, and nobody thinks this guy was justified to do what he did.
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    While there's ample evidence to indicate that this guy was politically motivated, most assassins are not. (Most are also unsuccessful and unknown, even after they've been arrested and convicted.) Essentially, the reason folks tend to snap and start gunning down politicians or other famous people is that they want attention, and they can't find any other way of getting it, so they pick a high profile target and shoot them.
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    Nicely done.
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    Out of curiosity, how would you carry on the field during a ballgame? I imagine a hip or shoulder holster might interfere with your swing. Ankle holster, or just slip it into the small of your back and hope you don't have to slide into home? :garamet:
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    I know it's a temptation to try to impose some overarching explanation having to do with the state of our politics, but I'm not sure it's helpful. The guy was a murderous nutjob. He didn't need to listen to any hateful rhetoric, he was full of his own hateful rhetoric, much like the Portland train attacker. The real clue to the state of our politics is the haste shown by some to politicize such a horrible event. I was impressed by the display of unity by Speaker Ryan and Minority Leader Pelosi. Even President Trump's statement showed class and dignity. It would be good for their example to serve as a reminder to all of us that however great our divisions and disagreements we can all stand together when it really counts.
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    I did not say he was justified. I merely stated there is no proof or evidence he was politically motivated.
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    I dont see it. Just because he volunteered to work on Bernie Sanders campaign is not enough evidence. He hated Trump. Lots of people hate Trump. Thats not evidence either. I am using the new republican russia collusion standard.
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    I'm guessing that not every person in attendance at this practice session was physically on the ball field at the same time. That's pretty much how baseball works. Nine guys on the field, one guy at bat, maybe a few on base, the rest on the bench or in the bullpen. All others are media, spectators, etc. Any questions?
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    Indeed there may not be. But the shooter did ask somebody who was involved in the practice, and when he found out they were Republicans, he opened fire shortly after. Make of that what you will.
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    I'm just glad that one of our own voted from the rooftop. It's time we get the same respect as 2nd amenders on the right.

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    Translation: I'll be just as big a douchebag as the other guys because reasons.

    If we want to see progress in America, then we have to be honest about things. This nutter was a Bernie Bro who hated Trump and decided to shoot people. Who he decided to shoot is immaterial, it is wrong. When Gabby Giffords was shot, even Muad, who happily admitted to wanking himself at the idea of a second Civil War, condemned the action. The only person here whom I can remember thinking that it was "cool" was enlisted retard, and his opinion can be disregarded on everything. By adopting this stance, you're saying that you're dumber than enlisted retard.

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    No that is an incorrect statement. There is no evidence that happened that way.
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    There is no evidence he did this for political reasons. We can try to reason it but the evidence is not there. I am not saying this was cool or approving of it. I am only stating there is no evidence he did this for political reasons. He is dead and left no note stating why he did what he did. Therefore I am not going full retard.
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    Yeah, the people that were there sure don't know more than you do.

    Hogkinson "apparently volunteered in Iowa" for Sen. Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign, according to his staff.

    DeSantis told FOX in a separate interview that "a guy ... walked up to us that was asking whether it was Republicans or Democrats out there.”

    The Florida Republican, who plays third base for the team, said the encounter seemed "a little odd." After the man walked away, DeSantis said they alerted the police about him.

    In a later interview with Fox Business Network, DeSantis told host Neil Cavuto that he believes Hodgkinson “is the individual who approached our car” and “wanted to know whether it was Republicans or Democrats that were out there.”

    The Republican and Democratic baseball teams practice separately for the annual charity baseball game, scheduled for Thursday.