Entitled Douchebag SF cyclist HITS AND KILLS A MAN, gets probation.

Reading that story makes me want to go kill the guy myself. I see behavior like that all the time around my area. Assholes on bicycles who think they can ignore traffic laws. Just this morning I watched a guy on a bike ignore a red light and zip through an intersection.

Yeah a 150 pound man on a bike going top speed at 20 mph is going to be deadly to a pedestrian. Not as much as a car obviously...

This case is a lot less clear cut then what is being presented here. I've been following it for a while. Perhaps the DA was afraid they just didn't have enough proof to prove the rider had acted illegally. There is video proof that the pedestrians entered the crosswalk illegally and it's debatable on whether the rider ran a red or not. The rider was probably afraid a jury would hate him because of his retarded message board posts after the accident about his helmet and that he was a cyclist. So they took a plea deal.

Plus the family of the victim didn't want jail time.

Even so, my best friends dad was the cause of a wreck when we were younger and killed two people in his car and faced several years of jail time.

While he might not have been driving a car they still want to claim that they get the same punishment? Bullshit. There's no way.

FWIW

seeing as we're talking about differing treatment by the law and press...

Since we all know I'm always on the side of the white guy, I have to ask the question:

How do we know the Chinese pedestrian wasn't TRYING to get run over by a bike?



Seriously, 1000 hours of community service? If he'd done what he did in a car, he'd be looking at some prison time.

You're wrong. Yes, pedestrians have the right of way but no there are no illegal alien crossings nor does the law in any way call motorists baby killing Nazis.

I just love how shit gets twisted and morphs away from reality when it makes it into what ever right wing blogs you happen to read. The caution signs do exist on freeways in San Diego and the border region but they are not "illegal alien crossing" signs and instead are to caution drivers about stupid and desperate people who sometimes try to play frogger in real life in an attempt to escape the border patrol. Basically, after a couple of hundred people get killed (both motorists and illegals) in the same generally area over the years; the state got sued for failing to warn motorists about predictable dangers/hazards on those stretches of road so the compromise is they put up a caution sign to warn motorists. It is not an illegal alien crossing sign as only an idiot goes across a 10 lane freeway with a 70 mph speed limit.

Really? No shit?

So, in other words, they are illegal alien crossings. You may shut your cock hole now.

I edited out the name calling in an attempt to be nicer but, yes, those are caution signs to motorists not "illegal alien crossing signs". It's an attempt by the state to avoid getting sued again after multiple multi car pile ups and numerous illegals getting smeared across I5. It is not "cross here" sign, genius.

You'll also notice the 12 foot high barrier in the center divide of the 10 lane freeway which is there to discourage illegals from making the mad dash. So, once again, no those are not illegal alien crossing signs and are just signs to warn drivers of possible road hazards in that area.

No, it's a "illegals cross wherever the fuck they want, but it's YOUR fault if you hit them, so beware" sign.

No, I'm afraid I have yet to hear of any driver being found liable (criminally or civilly) when an idiot runs out into the middle of a 10 lane freeway with everyone going 65 or 70 mph. Freeways are not regular surface roads and pedestrians are not permitted so the law says they're to blame if they ignore the law.

So far you've been wrong about everything so why don't you keep on derping so I can keep smacking you around?

Wait.

Is this the setup for the ol' "How many Mexicans does it take to grease a car?" joke?

Don't take my word for it and instead just look at all the "No Pedestrians Permitted" signs at every freeway entrance or exit.

Hard to say, but I wouldn't be so quick jumping to that conclusion. If the info at this link is correct, the max penalties are pretty limited. Vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence or intoxication carries a max penalty of 1 year in county jail. I'm sure most plea deals involve a much lesser penalty, since that is the leverage available to a prosecutor.

Sometimes you'll even see signs like this just to cover all bases: "PEDESTRIANS - BICYCLES - MOTOR-DRIVEN CYCLES - PROHIBITED". One of the benefits of a litigation prone society is you end up getting lots of warning signs all over the place.

This guy is an entitled douchebag.

He says he was too committed to stop...too committed to being over the speed limit.

And then there is this:

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-manslaughter-article-1.1408495#ixzz2a5szT18y

He was completely aware it was a crowded crosswalk and despite knowing he didn't have a good view of it, he "plowed through".

That asshole deserves jail time...we was knowingly and willingly negligent and endangered lives...resulting in a person's death.

Not saying it's everyone, but there are a shitload of entitled asshats riding around San Francisco on bikes, particularly on the days Critical Mass is active.

I'm pretty sure the taxpayers don't pay for paved roads so that dipshits on bicycles can tie up traffic. If they operate on the roadways, they ought to be cited if they get out of bike lanes, block traffic, etc.

And guys like the doofus in the original link? If they blow through stop signs and are going too fast to stop for pedestrians, they are clearly being reckless. They need to have the book thrown at 'em.

Gul points out that the penalties are pretty weak. I'd certainly favor strengthening them.

At least Albert finally learned to cut his loses and give up while he's behind instead of staying and digging deeper.

"It has been described as a "monthly protest by cyclists reclaiming the streets.""

Oh, just fuck you in the neck with a pickaxe.

Holy fucking shitballs, Imma stab a fool.

Yeah, the penalties should definitely be stiffer, and cyclists should definitely be held no less accountable for the rules than anybody else. But as somebody who bikes and drives, my perception is that drivers are far more flagrant, frequent, and dangerous in their violations. The key is that nobody owns the road any more than the next guy. We all are obliged to notice and respect the other users, which includes understanding how to operate in the manner safest for all, not just most convenient to yourself.

Aww, he feels neglected.

I don't believe you about the laws dealing with people crossing freeways near the ILLEGAL ALIEN CROSSING signs you have. You are known to distort and lie and hope nobody notices. So that will have to wait until I can dig up something more authoritative than the flapping of your ample ass cheeks.

I liked critical mass when their goal was visibility. Make sure drivers notice bikes, and conditions should become safer for bikes. But they go too far when the goal becomes teaching drivers a lesson about how behavior of one group can inconvenience another. I have no trouble sharing the road with cars, just so long as they see me and are willing to accord me the same courtesy granted to other cars. I don't need the drivers to suffer in order to have adequate road access.

You don't fucking need road access at all. What you need is to stay the hell off of the road. The guy pedaling at 20mph on a 45mph surface street in rush hour, with three blocks worth of cars backing up behind him, is one seriously self-absorbed, contemptible motherfucker. I don't give a good goddamn what the law says about this. You have a place in motor vehicle traffic when you can keep pace with that traffic. Until then, you're a pedestrian with wheels and you need to stay on bike trails when you can and sidewalks when you must. There is never a time when blocking traffic with your little spandex-clad ass is preferred or acceptable.

I ride. Don't tell me it's not possible to follow this standard. Do not even try to fucking tell me.

I'm not going to pretend to know the way things are in Omaha, why don't you grant me the same respect. Where I ride, the cars aren't going any faster than the bikes, and much of the time, I can actually pass them, because they are backed up by the other cars. I prefer bike lanes when available, but if not, I'm on the road, which is a better choice than a crowded sidewalk. This is a wonderful demonstration of how life outside the Albertarian bubble doesn't always conform or allow for Albertarian standards.

And not for nothing, but anywhere I've been (which is a very long list) that has roads with cars going 45, has roads wide enough for the bikes to fit between the cars and the sidewalk. If anything, you make it sound like the Omaha drivers are going faster than conditions warrant.

That's if the bastard decides to let you pass. These cocksuckers we've got around here like to ride ride in the middle of the fucking lane, like they're just another car on the road. Ignore the horns, ignore the rage. Fuck everyone else, I'm ENTITLED.

If the speed limit is 45 around here, you best be going at least that fast, and don't fuck around accelerating to that speed, either. That pedal better hit the floor when the light turns green.

I get very annoyed...if I can't get to dialysis before 6AM then we usually have to deal with a crap load of bicyclists out for their morning rides. These are country back roads, they are not large, there is no bike lane, it is twisty and turny and near a large river, which produces thick morning fog about 80% of the time. The worse is a tiny bridge we have to cross that barely has room for two cars to pass each other. Bikers will go right down the middle and you often can't see them until your a foot away in the fog.

Our town has a huge bike path...I don't know why they just can't take their bikes there instead of making every morning the commute of terror hoping you don't inadvertently run down some idiot who refuses to ride safely.

It's the best when four of 'em ride together and block the road. Fuckers. Zel will lay on the horn until they move...we get a lot of obscene gestures. Too bad...I have something rather important to get to.

My prescription is to watch the run-the-kid-on-the-bike-over scene of Toxic Avenger 10-15 times.

But you're okay with car entitlement.

Sounds like Omaha has a loot of bad drivers. No doubt they feel entitled to drive that way.

I wish I could shoot some of the douchebag cyclists around here with a bazooka.

Or hit 'em with a banjo.

Yeah, California (and I assume every state, but you never know has laws about freeways. You're most likely not gonna spend any time in the slammer if you hit some random guy that's running out in the freeway. Fuck 'im.