Finally, Truth From Chris Mathews.

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Shouldn't you be posting your argument that every African American in the U.S. today should get their "40 acres and a mule"?
  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Considering I never made that argument, I think @Paladin's right and you're about to :baba:
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    Not surprising, coming from someone who's aroused at the thought of millions of people dying in war.
  4. Dayton Kitchens

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    That argument would be perfectly consistent with your apparent view that modern American citizens are somehow obligated to welcome immigrants today just because their ancestors came from overseas as well.
  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    But to say I actually made that argument is an outright lie. Do you believe Jesus knows what you post, Dayton? What would he say about lying?
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    What about all those people who lived before Christ? Isn't kind of sadistic for a god to say everyone will burn in hell for all eternity without Christ yet not bother to tell them for a very long time?
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  7. Dayton Kitchens

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    Distinction without a difference Garamet
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I suppose you could be right about that, Dayton, but then perhaps your view is analogous to saying we should return to legal slavery. There are two directions -- more liberty and less liberty. I choose more, it is the American way after all. Case closed.
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So Jesus doesn't care if you lie.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

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    It is my understanding that those who lived before Christ will be saved if they obeyed the commands in the Old Testament aside from those directed specifically at Jews.

    Hope that helps.
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    Chardman An image macro is worth 1000 words. Deceased Member

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    Obligated to welcome immigrants? Not at all what Garamet was implying.
    Hypocritical for not welcome immigrants? Probably a bit closer to the truth.
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    But he only told Jews and no one else on Earth? What about people in Australia or the New World who had absolutely no way to hear about it? Talk about setting them up for failure.
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  13. Dayton Kitchens

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    How is it hypocritical? I'm not an immigrant. Neither were my parents, grandparents, great grand parents, or great great grandparents.

    That's five generations right there. How long does any kind of moral obligation last? Everything ends.
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    Presumably, for as long as you're still reaping the benefits of the situation in question.
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  15. Dayton Kitchens

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    The only benefits I'm going to reap is the money and land I inherit from my dad.

    He inherited NOTHING from his father who was no great shakes when it came to business and economics.
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    So you don't reap any benefits from living in this country?
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    It lasts longer than that. The answer to Dayton's question is that it lasts as long as it fits the concept of morality. I'd say that Emma Lazarus had it right:

    It's integral to the American creed. Dayton hates America.
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  18. Dayton Kitchens

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    It says "yearning to breathe free".

    Not "dreaming of breaking into a place in order to make more money".
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    And yet, you would prefer that they suffocate, so the question of what happens once they are here is irrelevant from your point of view.
  20. Dayton Kitchens

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    Huh??
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    The second part of your statement is never tested if we ignore the huddled masses. I'm not surprised that you don't understand. It's because you hate America.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    It's like the "Save the Unborn Babies...but we don't care what happens to them once they're born" movement.
  23. Dayton Kitchens

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    I see:

    Because not wanting people killed automatically means indefinite responsibility for them for their entire lives:dayton:
  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    No.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    His mental switches are all binary.
    You don't fix that.
    I mean, you could TRY to go in, and replace the switches with dimmer knobs, but like putting a gigahertz CPU on a 1995 motherboard, it would kill him.
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