For the 'funemployed,' unemployment is welcome

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  1. Lt. Mewa

    Lt. Mewa Rockefeller Center

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    Hmmmm. Interesting question. Well??? :zod:
  2. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    You do recognize that social security is deducted from every US paycheck, and that any payout to UA (theoretically only, since the SS fund will be bankrupt by the time UA can expect to extract a penny) would be a return of capital worse than if UA had simply invested the amount deducted in T-bills? Right?

    So he's being stolen from, not collecting a form of charity.
  3. Lt. Mewa

    Lt. Mewa Rockefeller Center

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    The premium is like 2-3 dollars per check. If that much. :marathon:
  4. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Your point?

    I hope it's that taxpayers pay for unemployment, and that the entire scheme is in no way "insurance" which is such a misuse of the term that if were used by the private sector would constitute a fraudulent deception.

    Unemployment extensions (basically this has been happening since Obama took office) have led to a entire workforce of Chrises, people who have little trouble (and will even defend !) to sit on ass and receive a check from a pool of funds earned by others.

    Why get up and get a job?, when Obama is willing to send people their freebie unemployment checks in perpetuity (just to help everyone out in tough times (while the gubmint lives like we're boomtime)).
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  5. Lt. Mewa

    Lt. Mewa Rockefeller Center

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    T-Bills??? Did the interest on those just jump?? :soma:
  6. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    In the unlikely event that I live long enough, I still don't expect it to be there for me. But no, I don't plan on collecting Social Security.
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  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Is that what you perceive that article was about? :wtf:
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  8. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    .00001 would still be better than the zero return that's been promised to us by the social security withholding fund.

    Our future (theoretical) payout is not even guaranteed to be the money we put in plus inflation that keeps up with COLA, although in recent years it has.
  9. Nautica

    Nautica Probably a Dual

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    I can understand your thought process behind not collecting Unemployment if you were in such a situation, but the same rationale just doesn't jive with Social Security. You HAVE earned that--it's taken directly out of your gross pay on every paycheck! So why would you want to let the damned Government keep the money they've taken from you in the first place?!? :wtf:
  10. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    It would be different if what I paid went into its own account and left there until it was time for me to collect, but what I'm doing now is paying for other people to collect, and the demand will continue to outstrip the supply. What I would be doing by cashing in on those benefits is burdening that generation's workforce.
  11. Lt. Mewa

    Lt. Mewa Rockefeller Center

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    UA...can I have your piggy bank when you die? :marathon:
  12. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I expect to die penniless, but help yourself.
  13. Lt. Mewa

    Lt. Mewa Rockefeller Center

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    Your ashes could be worth much in years to come. I hear tell of a WordForge museum in the future and your urn would have a prominent place there. :zod:
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  14. Caboose

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    Did someone say pennies? :?:

    :tasvir:

    ;)
  15. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Meh! Take the money, Albert. It's not like it's going to cause you to go over to the Dark Side of the Force or anything. :vaderbattle:
  16. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Eh.

    It's none of anyone's business what Uncle Albert chooses to do about his finances.

    People are weird about this kind of thing...I get it all the time myself.

    First I get accused of being a leech on society and when I inform the accuser that I do not take any form of Government help and only leech off my willing husband, invariably I get a 180 and hear...."But...but why not? You clearly qualify for disability and probably other aid!"

    Which is, of course, incredibly ironic.

    I will only take aid if I have no other choice...which is how I feel it should be. It isn't an entitlement, it's a helping hand when you've tried everything else. And that is how I will use or not use it.
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  17. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I expect to be living in some post-apocalyptic version of the world by then anyway.
    :shrug:
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  18. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Ah. That explains your prior aversion to direct deposit. :D
  19. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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  20. Doctor Manhattan

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  21. Chris

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    I'm being defamed for drawing from a system I directly contributed to?

    Fuck you too.

    I suppose I should've begged for a job at McDonald's instead of paying my bills and going back to school so I can try to move up in the world.
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  22. brudder1967

    brudder1967 this is who we are

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    The only time I've been unemployed was when I actually left the job I had been with for almost 10 years because I was burnt out. And I only did that when I had a cushion to carry me over until I found another job. And even then I only spent what I had to and didn't splurge.

    I guess actually being burdened down with things like rent, utilities, food, etc., kept me from enjoying all the fun the funemployment generation can get away with.

    :sroll:
  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Well, at least one person understood what the article was actually about. :techman:
  24. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    No, you're being defamed because the bottom line is that I contributed more into a "system" that paid you for sitting on ass than you did, although I never bought a GM, and then that you defended the system that generated you those payments.

    It's a shitty system, a system of failure, as witnessed by GM needing both bailout and bankruptcy; just as bad a system as Obama and the left's repeatedly extending unemployment benefits, which encourages what might otherwise be job seekers to sit on ass and get a check.

    Relatively speaking, yours just sounds less scummy because the rotten incentive-system that coddled you was determined by collective bargaining and bad business practice, instead of the lowest-common-denominator-to-get-reelected legislative process that generates what's apparently an indefinite stream of unemployment payments that bear no actual relation to any so-called "unemployment insurance scheme."
  25. Chris

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    You've done nothing except whine like a mewling child and call people names.
  26. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    I have not, have not have not!, you big fat liar. And mewa has nothing to do with this so don't be a racist pig.
  27. Amaris

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    Jesus Christ, Chris. I'd love a job like McDonalds right now. Yeah, I want to improve myself, too, but that has to take a back seat to eating and paying bills. As for these "funemployed" guys, that's fine. The more they fuck around and goof off, the better chance I have of getting a job. Personally, I don't find the ulcer inducing worry about finding a decent paying job to warrant going to the beach. Unless at the beach there's a decent paying job available.
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  28. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    I'm glad I like my job enough that at first I thought 'funemployment' meant what I've got now.
  29. Volpone

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    Well, I have a couple business ventures, but I'm not collecting a paycheck, so I don't know if I'm funemployed or what, but I did take a 3 hour break this afternoon to ride my motorcycle around and go to a strip joint.
  30. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    I'm not entirely sure what the article was actually about, but I'm absolutely certain that the original post expressed the view: "anecdote=data, and if you don't agree then die in a fire you commie prick."