Game Of Thrones season 8 [SPOILERS]

Also mirrored when Sam suggests giving more people a say in their destiny and they rub in that even in this "friendly" ending the rulers left are entitled born to rule assholes.

I liked the broad strokes of this ending, it just would have been better with more episodes to let ideas breathe.

On the upside at least Varys went quickly based on how quickly a sustained blast from Drogos melted the throne.

I can't disagree.

I have far more problems with the last two seasons than I do with the finale. Given how rushed and sloppy the showrunners handled it (epitomized by the coffee cup and fucking water bottles that apparently multiple, multiple people didn't notice in postproduction ) , the ending actually wasn't too bad.

The last two seasons would've benefited from at least two additional episodes each so the story could've played out at a more reasonable pace, IMHO.

To repeat an earlier post:

Maybe Lorne Greene was right. I think it was he that said that no television show should go on more than five seasons.

I just got done watching it.

I have mixed feelings. One the one hand, I admire the craftsmanship that went into creating the episode. It looks gorgeous, the production values are second to none. HBO clearly spared no expense on SFX and it shows.

However.....it just all happened too fast, seasons 7 & 8 needed to be 10 episodes each like season 1. I don't understand why HBO didn't insist on this. I get that D&D wanted to wrap things up because they had already mentally checked out and had begun working on Star Wars, but you can't fumble at the goal line like this. Dany's turn to the Dark Side, while better than Anakin's, clearly needed more time to develop. I don't have a problem with her going Mad Queen, just the rushed execution.

Doctor Who disagrees!

Both Breaking Bad & The Wire had superb endings.... but they both went for 5 seasons... and Game Of Thrones was way more ambitious, IMHO.

I know it’s wasn't a serialized drama, but TNG had probably my favorite ending of all time.

Yes to all three, though The Wire's last season was something of a letdown from the earlier ones IMHO. Still good, just not as good as what they did before.

And Breaking Bad showed how to do one season's worth of episodes split into two the right way. GoT's people could've learned something from Vince Gilligan.

Oh fuck this is a dark take:



I think I might love it.

"Of course I'm probably just theory crafting."

For the naysayers:

One last thought and then I will go back to watching reruns of Better Call Saul. I was reading some non-US based reactions the other day and I was interested by how many Tyrion haters there were.

You can easily make the case he was the show's biggest manipulator and often carried loads of plot armor. If GRRM is loyal to his words about feeling pain and dismantling the old tropes then he has to kill Tyrion in the remaining books.

The Cripple Formerly Known as Bran said quite a few times he wasn’t Bran.

Also, he has abandoned being a Stark, taking on the Three Eyed Raven as his sigil.

I had a thought this morning that with the coffee cup and water bottle goofs, one third of the final season's episodes had major mistakes that made it into the finished product.

I'd consider myself an abject failure if my work contained that many errors.

As much as I've loved Doctor Who over the 50 some-odd years that it has existed in the world, I don't know that its longevity is truly in its favor.

Law & Order: Kings Landing

They were the ones who caught Jon.

The ending was not nearly as bad as BSG. Get real.

As I mentioned upthread, I've long expected Daenerys to die, and so she did. Westeros faced two great threats: ice (the White Walkers) and fire (the Targaryens). In the end, both were defeated and peace can reign.

The plot point of Jon being a Targaryen served two purposes, just not ones we expected. First, it drove a wedge between Jon and Daenerys, leading to her going off the deep end. Second, it gave Drogon a reason to not burn Jon after he killed her.

The biggest problem I had was the political resolution at the end, making Bran the king. The destruction of King's Landing and the melting of the Iron Throne would more logically lead to the lords deciding that the kingdoms should all go their separate ways. It makes little sense that the North seceded but the Iron Islands, for example, didn't. And there wasn't sufficient build-up to the idea of Bran becoming king.

I also agree it would have made more sense for the Dothraki to go on a rampage upon Daenerys' death. We assume Grey Worm kept them in line and they ended up returning to Essos, but that was not sufficiently addressed.

But overall, the ending and the season were fine and not nearly as bad as people are complaining about.

I didn't know it would be Bran, but I knew it would be an out of left field political kind of thing, because Thrones is based on The War Of The Roses, and that ended not with any of the big players "winning", but with the rise of a new house, the house of Tudor, that lead to Henry VIII and Elizabeth I.

So, I at least knew the established order would be upturned somehow.

Who the heck is Henry the Thirteenth?

Whoops!

*whew*

Just you wait.

Paladin cosplays as cersie.