George Takei's Marriage Rendered Illegal

What wrong conclusion could I jump to when the statement is "as long as my taxes don't pay for it"?

My opinion is that they should be able to legally marry whoever or whatever they want. Each other, any number of people, pets, farm animals, etc. But...each state should decide.

Listen, Sally, it’s a multi-pronged observation.

One, you seem to have switched your ire from dickwad parents to the school teachers. As if they are all part of this nebulous government entity pushing an agenda.

Two, your constant rage posts are the very essence of someone who’s perpetually offended and has a hard time living in a free society.

And three, nothing to do with you, but this conversation from 2008 might be more relevant today than back then because of the multi-year and multi-state effort to deny individual rights already protected in the Constitution.

Depends on the missing context. But if I insist on not paying for it, and you insist that I'm not, what's the problem?

I've got plenty for anyone who thinks they get to control what I say or do.

You are free to assume that and be as wrong as you want, all damn day.

List these rights.

Wow remember when Nova was Shep?

Wow. That's almost sane and reasonable.

You're definitely becoming more Shep than Nova in your old age, UA

The only thing that is changing is the beer goggles you people wear to read my posts. Nothing I say now contradicts anything I said before, but now you attach different implications, and that's not my problem.

Because it implies my rights are subject to yours. Which, you've already established, they are not. So, saying "as long as my taxes don't pay for it" is diminishing my right to stand up for myself.

When it's multiple people seeing it, it's you.

Not unless that right implies the ability to forbid the use certain phrases, which is a) not true, and b) never going to fucking happen.

Multiple transparent bullshitters who fail utterly to supply proof. If it's not there in plain text, it's not fucking there. You can take your "interpretations" and blow them out your ass.

Yeah, everyone is transparent bullshitters, it's neeeeever you.

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Fun fact: if Obergefell is overturned, Prop 8 is still in the CA Constitution. It can't be removed without a ballot proposition either.

Then prove it, Dicknuckles.

It doesn't matter. My rights are my rights. and they are not subject to any fucking deviances by some asshole who wants to put controls around my rights.

These days it would be. The line has shifted quite a bit on gay marriage.

Dicky will never,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever provide proof of his bullshit claims, never.

Your rights cannot grant you veto power over mine.

Not if Salt Lake has anything to lord over the pulpit ...

Sure, there are definitely places were that wouldn't happen, but the specific comment was about California. Pretty sure it would be relatively easy to get gay marriage back on the ballot now and it would pass with flying colors (heh) there.

This is one of the reasons why the lazy ass left is a fucking bunch of dumbasses. They had years to do things and they did not.

The only good thing is that hopefully the voters will demand legislative action instead of relying on elite judges to protect rights.

Of course, I still think protections for gay marriage need to wait until we get protections for GLBT workers against discrimination. We also need protections for medical care from insurers for GLBT and women's care including abortion and hormone therapies.

Marriage should be last. I said it, marriage is a fucking sham that only funds divorce lawyers. Let us focus on health care and worker's rights before we worry about marriage. If you had health benefits and worker protection you almost do not need marriage because you could afford a lawyer to make a legal partnership.

And vice versa.

Can't find a girl?

My point was more Salt Lake was a big reason Prop 8 passed in the first place.
And I don't mean the city government

(An aside, Salt Lake actually has a Harvey Milk St )

Sorry, my bad, the only Salt Lake I knew is in Utah. Of course, I also just learned there is a Bumpass VA, so perhaps my geography knowledge wasn't as strong as I thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumpass,_Virginia

Well yeah. But Prop 8's a big reason the Mormon church should lose tax exempt status.

Every damn one of them should.

It was just a cowardly lack of will to enforce the Johnson amendment that they didn't.