Good News for Fags and Junkies: AIDS Cured

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  1. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell I'm a big fuckin' dick.

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    The alternate title was something along the lines of "Shooting Galleries and Turkish Bathhouses Once Again Safe."

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40662122/ns/local_news-spokane_wa/40662867

  2. sandbagger

    sandbagger Fresh Meat

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    This'll be how the Walking Dead get started I just know it. Time to stock up on canned goods and ammo.:smoking:
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  3. Clyde

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    If true, a stunning breakthrough.
  4. ThroatwobblerMangrove

    ThroatwobblerMangrove Defies all earthly description

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  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    DAMN! I was going to cure cancer next week too! Now if I do, I'll just look like a "copycat". :santa_angry:
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  6. Captain J

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    ^ No worries, some copycatting is good. This would be one of those. :techman:
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  7. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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  8. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Good news! :techman:

    Now we need a way for stem cells to cure Islam! :yes:
  9. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Or just cure people who harbour irrational hate for other people.

    That would take out you + the worst of them :techman:
  10. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Dan starts with the classic liberal* take on life: You no likey and say mean things, you bad.
    He then no likey's Marso and calls for his death, but its ok.


    *I don't care what liberal means in the UK or Europe. This board is hosted in AMURICUH BY GAWD.
  11. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    Great news, but I doubt the insurance companies agree. Can't imagine stem cell therapy being cheap.
  12. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Curing someone of irrational behaviour doesnt ALWAYS lead to their death you know....
  13. Caboose

    Caboose ....

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    All bullshit aside, this has the potental to be a cornerstone to the discoveries needed to cure some pretty serious diseases.

    On the bullshit side, does this mean Dennis Bailey will live? :unsure:
  14. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    There is no doubt that stem cell replacement is expensive.

    However, I can't imagine a lifetime of cocktails, doctor visits, and a long hospice term would be much cheaper.

    Having to immediately absorb this type of cost is what will be the killer for companies paying out on this.
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  15. Jenee

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    OMG!!!! Mark your calendars! Alert the mediat! apostle made a post in a thread about AIDS that wasn't derisive, derogatory or plain stupidity.
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  16. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Believe it or not, I care for those who are sick. A lot.

    While I believe an "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure," I also believe that it is in the best interests of everyone to help the sick. I also feel a personal mandate to help those in need, and I do so to the best of my ability.

    "There's no use crying over spilled milk." People have AIDS, and no matter how they got it, I would love to see them become well.

    :bailey:

    Was that full on retard?
  17. Beck

    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    That's just what I was thinking.
    (standard insurance company future response)
    "Sorry you're sick, but we don't cover this"..."IDK what you should do? Uh sell your house? Stand at the corner?"..."we can't talk to you if you swear at us, goodbye!"
  18. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    It's not. There's also the fact that stem cell (bone marrow) transplants only have two outcomes. The preparatory regime is so rough, you either go home cured or you go to the morgue. There is no in between.

    We're just beginning to tap the potential of this type of therapy. About four years ago, scientists at the University of Alabama at Birmingham and Southern Research Institute cured Type I Diabetes via stem cell transplant.

    The only reason we haven't signed dad up for he clinical trials is the prep regime. My mom is a certified expert in HEMOC and she does stem cell transplants every day. She knows how horrible they are.
  19. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    The treatment used kills one in three of those it's attempted on, so....
  20. Clyde

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    Kidding aside, one out of three die from the treatment?

    Still, depending on the circumstance, a 66% shot might well be worth the risk.
  21. ThroatwobblerMangrove

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    Yeah, if I remember correctly what I read in an article about this case a while ago, the only reason this guy got the treatment was that given his leukaemia, it was his only chance to survive. They wouldn't have risked it to get rid of the HIV alone.
  22. Beck

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    Especially considering the "long" route of HIV. If you end up with HIV, you WILL eventually develop AIDS and you WILL die (at least that was the prognosis the last time I read anything about HIV/AIDS). We can now "greatly extend" the length of time you have, but it's merely an extension. You're going to go broke eventually and probably not have much of a life from the drugs to keep the virus at bay for the 30-40 year honeymoon period conventional medical science can now provide, so if you want to gamble it all on a stem cell treatment to cure yourself, I couldn't really blame you.

    That being said, I don't know ANYTHING about stem cell transplants. I don't know what you're going to go through. But if you do survive, at least your HIV will be gone, and that weight of "when" is the body finally going to succumb, will be lifted.
  23. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Actually I read some stuff recently that suggests that the medical community is working under the assumption that the current generation of anti-retroviral medications coupled with the expected advances (based on past trends) will work to keep HIV at bay for the entirety of an infected person's natural life.

    In other words, they no longer accept the idea that those with HIV will inevitably develop AIDS. Rather, they assume that those with HIV who faithfully take their meds will NOT EVER develop AIDS.
  24. mlong

    mlong Poking that old Liberal Bear

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    Another part of this story is it's adult stem cells not embryonic stem cell...remember how Marty Macfly told us we just had to fund them because they were going to cure everything?...well where are all the cures we were promised why is it adult cells that were hearing about?...hate to think I've forced my wife to have all those abortions for nothing...man is she going be pissed.
  25. Beck

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    I HAVE heard that, but I (being of the pessimist school that I am) tend to assert the relative impossibility of keeping a virus at bay for much of the entire human lifespan. Eventually, the virus will find a way through those antiretroviral defenses and adapt unless you can eliminate the source, or establish immunity. That is what viruses are programmed to do. Granted, I don't think it's the automatic "decade death sentence" it used to be, but it IS a "death row sentence," nonetheless. I've yet to hear of someone who (having contracted HIV, did not at some point, succumb to AIDS. (except for these stem cell transplant people who have been cured, of course).
  26. Volpone

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    Magic Johnson.
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  27. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Magic Johnson. HIV+ for 20 or so years, no AIDS.
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  28. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Mallory went through a bone marrow transplant, and his stories made my hair curl. The horrors that man went through makes my medical history look like a honeymoon on Risa.

    Still hard to fathom he isn't coming back someday. :cry:
  29. Beck

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    What is involved if I dare ask? The harshest treatment I know of is Chemotherapy. What makes stem cells so scary? Did Mallory pass away?
  30. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    All those closeted right wing evangelical conservatives can now get butt fucked by their gay escorts without fear of AIDS.
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