I know that in many considerations, I'm still a 'newb' around here either due to low post count or lack of board experience, but I want to adress all of you and I mean this both as the general you and the specific you. It may be naivety on my part, but I thought that we all used to get along. I'm not suggesting we were the best of friends, nor that we ever agreed or that we even liked each others opinions just that at least there was a level of civility and good humor to our ribbing of one another. I'm not suggesting everyone apologize, hug and makeup. 1. It would never happen and 2. it would never last. I just wanted to point it out, in case you hadn't noticed it or were pretending not to. I know that not everyone is guilty and of course there are the cries coming from some of you, "It isn't me" "I'm just joking", just stop, no need to pretend. I'm not calling anyone out, I'm not trying to make this an agenda against anyone and I don't even want a response. I just want everyone to take a step back and look at each other for a moment, think about that one person on the board you can't stand (everyone has one, don't kid yourself) and try to find one redeeming quality about that person however minor or trivial. Focus on it and remember that they are a person, same as you, no matter there life's situation, race, religion, creed, anything- they are a person like you and deserve the same as you. Don't try to agree with them more, don't apologize to them, don't even say anything about it, just remember that these are people too. I know this is all touchy-feely, new-agey, bull shit. Just hold your breath because this last bit is the worst: No matter what I say or do, you're all people just like me. You have your lives and your thoughts and opinions, just like me. You live and breath the same air as I do, and for your humanity, for what makes us the same despite our many differences, I love you. Now call me a nancy-boy, hippy what-have-you and carry on.
It seems you have come to a certain understanding about this place that some never get. We are real people. We exist IRL. The people I dislike are the people that don't think we are real and just want to run over people. They call women here cunts. They talk about peoples kids. They kick people when they are down. The people like that often don't change. Then we wonder why are they here. they are here to harass and annoy folks. That is their turn on. Then you get people that nobody likes and you just can't figure out why they are here.
I'm not inclined to disagree- for all our posturing and supposed moral values we are nothing more than animals with instincts and desires ar heart. It seems absurd that we should even bother to hold ourselves to any standards in regards to our treatment of others, but I think that if we believe we are better than animals (as many of us do) then we should at least act accordingly. Don't ever change Chris.
I remember the pre-Drama days, and I'd welcome a return to them. But as long as TPTB encourage - if not actively participate in - teh Drama, there will be Drama. There's no one here I dislike, though there are several whose behaviors I find reprehensible. Understanding *why* they conduct themselves this way, however, I see no reason not to hold them accountable for their actions. As always, I never hit first. But in no RL context do people "just ignore" someone who attacks them. No one has ever adequately explained why this is required on the Internet and nowhere else. However, locustinferno, your effort here is most appreciated.
You know, I think it is funny you should mention that because I know who you're talking about and I think that anyone with half a brain does too. I think he gets it and refuses to change as you say, but I think at heart he means well and it just take a minute of stepping back from the bull shit and taking people for more than face value to realize that. I can see the good within that bad, the truth behind the actions, he may truly believe he is doing right by his lord and it was a misunderstanding at the end of it all anyways. I think the moral of that story is that people shouldn't be so quick to jump and should take a longer look before leaping. Whether they be gluttons for the punishment, hungry for the attention or just laughing it all off as some game they obviously take some enjoyment from being here. At basic level none of us will do something unless it leads toward filling one of our needs or desires.
TNZ? The Neutral Zone, right? I don't know much about it, but what I get from it is that it is a forced play nice zone on another board. As I said, I don't want you all to play nice, I just want you to look at each other and think for one moment then carry one with your lives. This is my epiphany, of appreciation for all of you, that I hoped to share with those willing to join me. For me personally, it is another step in being less of an angry person.
You wanna know something? Like 85% of the posts here are just because people like hearing the sound of their own voices. Case in point.
Well I admit it. I love the attention and I love to entertain. I don't think you fuckers post fast enough. Think fast and post.
I don't understand the anagram, but I just have to ask once, please don't make this about specific people whether they be stated or just implied. The last thing I need (and I say this respectfully) is this turning into the very same drama that you claim to dislike. I know I can no better control the thread direction, than I could the tide of an ocean, but I have to reprimand you for making this about you. In some small way you had to refute my statement, so as to seperate yourself from the rest of us. Not better, just different. Really? I just thought maybe someone could say something nice to everyone without anyone having to make it about themselves. I like you, I don't think you're stupid or as crazy as some perscribe, but you do have a knack for turning the tracks directly at yourself. It is as though you just want to play in traffic, just to see what happens. And now you've made me falter from my own little nirvana long enough to get flustered with you, happy now?
As far as I know, no one can force me to type anything on this keyboard I don't want to type. I like most of you and have high regard for a few, but, whether I love you or whether I hate you, you don't control what I say or what I do. And that is--or should be--as true for the rest of you all as it for me.
Then I'm thoroughly convinced her only reason for posting was to further the very same drama she is convinced the board mods and admins so love.
Dude, certain things you should just realize and move on. I slow down to check out car wrecks but i don't stop the car if ya get my drift.
All the drama, rep wars and overall bullshit is one of the reasons I hardly post here anymore. Any meaningful discussion gets shouted down by the usual gang of idiots, and good posters are constantly being chased off. So there's not much incentive to hang around.
Dude, you used to be one of those loud angry people. Then you cool out and the place is not for you. Why can't you find a place in the middle and stick around? ya know, post some more.
You know I don't think the posters have so much been "run off" as they have gotten bored with the same old same old. I can think of a few who have just shrugged, and taken a break. Edit: Hell one of the only reasons I'm here at the moment so much is because it's the last days of school and all of my kids are doing their reviews. When summer hits I don't know if I will continue to be here as often or if I will find other things to do. it's sad, but there is so much of the same bullshit. And it's gotten to be where if I see a certain poster in a thread I know they are going to be doing most of the bullshit posting so I just leave.
No, my reason was to point out an existing situation. What you're doing is called "shooting the messenger." That said, I'll reiterate: I don't dislike anyone here. But I'll say some nice things about Tamar in order to fulfill your request, okay? A while back Tamar described herself as "nobody." Nothing could be further from the truth. She's smart, she's funny, she's well-informed, she's very, very attractive (Okay, down, Baba; don't get any ideas), and she has the kind of charisma that can reduce every straight man on WF to a drooling puppy. That's what I'd define as "somebody." She also has the ability to make WF whatever she wants it to be. And anyone who takes that as an insult has completely missed my point.
Well, age has a way of changing one's outlook on life. I'm still here, so I guess that counts for something.
The fuck you do. 50% of it followed you in the door. And if anybody wants touch-feely bullshit, keep in mind we have other pleasently-colored forums.
