Hearing Set For Class Action Lawsuit Against DNC

That sounds like maybe 10 people.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that it doesn't have to be illegal in the first place in order to get sued for it.

Bernie Sanders has no job experience his wife does.

not too mention, far less reality impaired than the guy you did elect...

How so?

Hey, I didn't vote for the orange buffoon . . .

Problem is, they didn't want any of the other guys, either. Out of the horde of Republican candidates, the only one with any sense was Kaisch, and he suffers from the same problem George HW Bush did: Capable of doing the job, but lacking the kind of public persona which the job requires. Put him up against Hillary, and he'd probably have lost (though it might well have been a reversal of this past election, where Hillary won the electoral college, but Kaisch got the popular vote).

Had there been someone in the ring that the leaders liked, they certainly would have done all they could to clear the field for him. Not necessarily in the same way the Dems did it, but they could have explained to the others that this or that bill they were pushing hard for, wasn't going to go anywhere, if they didn't drop out of the race. Or similar.

In all the years I have followed politics I have never seen the GOP attempt to clear the field for the Presidency. It was a big field in 2016,2012, 2008, 2000, 1996, 1992... it's always been a large field of candidates.

The Bush team was nasty with McCain in 2000 though.

Of course they were. But that was Bush's team, not the GOP and that's politics.

Do you think they're going to announce they're clearing the field? The closest you're going to get to that is when Libby Dole dropped out of the 2000 race before the first primary, saying that all the money was going to W. If you'll notice, that during any Presidential primary (be it Republican or Democratic), there's always a couple of candidates who get more focus than the others. Those are the ones the party is interested in seeing win. The rest of the field is just a side-show for the masses. If the GOP was being "even-handed" in things, do you think they would have been so quiet when the flyers appeared containing the false story that McCain had had an out-of-wedlock daughter by a "black woman"? (The daughter, BTW, was rescued by McCain's wife in an orphanage, where she would have otherwise died, and McCain seems to have done a good job raising her, so absolute props to him.)

It's funny how both the Democrats and Republicans try to defend their actions by pointing at the other and saying they did the same thing. Doesn't matter if they bitched about it at the time and how wrong it was, or laughed about how stupid or corrupt they were for doing it, they'll still turn around and do the exact same thing, and then excuse by saying, "yeah, well they did it, too!" I also find it laughable that you'd accuse the Libertarian Party of doing the same thing. No, what this is like is an even shadier version of that the Republicans did back in 2012 to Ron Paul. The main difference is that they were so obvious about it, they literally had the pre-selected name up on the teleprompter that someone was able to get video of. If it weren't for the email hack, people might have been suspicious, but they wouldn't have really been any the wiser that Sanders got fucked out of the nomination. And to think, I actually called that shit.

No, no, no, since you didn't vote for Clinton, you enabled his election.

Libby Dole along with many others that year dropped out and endorsed Bush early because A.) Their own campaigns weren't gaining any traction and B.) Bush was seen as the true conservative.

The ones that get the most focus tends to change with each fundraising deadline and each poll taken. We never know who the real frontrunners are until voting for the primary actually happens and then that's when you see them dropping like flies. But that has nothing to do with any manipulation by the party as a whole. The only time that the parties usually get involved is when a losing candidate is staying in and prolonging the inevitable.

McCain was pretty nasty during that cycle as well. Politics is a full contact sport and negative campaigning comes with the territory.

The Libertarian's also have strippers.

Yeah, why do you think that was?

He's downright liberal when compared to Pat Buchanon.

Not really. In 2000 W and McCain got the lion's share of attention by the media.

Seven candidates dropped out of the GOP contest before the first primary in 2000, most of the rest vacated the field after the New Hampshire primary. McCain and Keyes were the only ones who hung around. Keyes never stood a chance, but the party leaders certainly wouldn't have objected to McCain getting the nomination.

You think so. Then why did the GOP shaft Ron Paul at the 2012 convention? He hadn't been a drag on McCain's campaign, so why fuck him over?

Right, and if you think that the people running a political party are above doing the same, then you don't understand how politics works.

that'd be the collective "you"...

Hey someone's gotta make 'Merka grategreat again

Whatever. Get back to me when you have something more than "Parties interfere all the time and I know this because of coincidence."

Mmm, thanks for giving me the excuse to listen to one of my favorite rock instrumentals, "The Roots of Coincidence" by Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays

"Vote for John," I said, but you all said no.
"He'll balance the budget!" but you all said no.
"He's a firm proponent of equal rights!" yet that still got a negative.
"Forced labor camps will make unemployment a thing of the past!" I entreated, but again, no.
"His word will be law when the Great Cataclysm comes," but you all said no.
"Blood of the disloyal fallen will rise up to the horse's bridle," I said, but you all said no.
"His enemies will cry for mercy as he burns their cities to the ground," and that got a no, too.
"Every Friday will be casual Friday," but even that got your ire, and a resounding no.

Nothing makes any of you happy. You deserve what you got.

No toco Tuesday's was your downfall.

I think it relevant to this discussion that Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat.

One of the primary, if not the primary, purposes of a political party is to get its members voted into office.

Bernie Sanders has competed in 21 general elections. 13 of those were against Democrats.

Politics is a team sport. You can't play the outsider for decades, turning your nose up at the party, actively campaign against the party's nominees and then get indignant when the party doesn't welcome you with open arms.

It's like he can't read or something

True as that may be, I think it's a valid point to remember that the Dem field was all but cleared for Hilary this time as well.

I actually had to Google the other four Dem nominees because I couldn't remember a single one. Doncha think it's odd that not another already well-known Democrat ran? Elizabeth Warren sat this out. Biden was supposed to run but his son died and I can't blame him for saying enough was enough.

But...no one else?

Just seems....odd.

It's not legally corrupt. It IS morally corrupt. But since when has the left had any sense of morality?

A Democrat is who ever files the legal papers to run as a democratic candidate. Bernie did this and so he is/was during the last election. Btw we already know you are fine with corruption because we remember how, during the primaries, you made excuses, hand waved, and tried to justify the rankest bull shit Hillary and company pulled. I destinctly remember you smugly dismissing problems like the one where the DNC cut Sanders off from his own god damned get out the vote data base days before key primaries just to make sure he didn't win like polls were showing. I remember you idiotically saying "Well, Hillary got more votes so she is who the people want" ignoring the FACT that she just barely won several and that the DNC deliberately sabotaged his campaign by destroying his ability to get voters to the poll.

The DNC even knew he was going to win this why they cut him off from access to his own database. No one likes a cheater, except you, I guess. If you find it politically expediant then you seem perfectly happy to ignore cheating, rule breaking, and corruption and that says something about you.

But we already knew you don't care about rules or moral concepts like fairness and that is why GTurner remains banned despite never breaking a single rule.

The Left (as an institution) actually denies that there is even such a real thing as "Morality" by any reasonable objective standard, so to talk about "moral corruption" in the context of the Left, as it were, is a moot point.