"Heroes" Season Two!

^Because Hiro was arbitrarily a dumbass, Peter had no reason to read Hiro's mind. He could have trusted that Hiro was telling the truth about Adam killing Hiro's dad but thought that Hiro's dad deserved it and/or Adam was necessary to save the world.

My first thought on the other point was exactly that, that HRG pulled the trigger on Nathan. There presumably was time enough for HRG to get back to Odessa as they were setting up the press conference. It would set up an interesting tension between Claire Bear's real and adoptive dads, assuming it's true and Claire finds out.

 

They move from NY to CA to TX and back as if they have transporters at their service.

 

That and Peter hasn't developed his abilities to the extent that Parkman has, he can only read active thoughts, he can't probe people's minds.

 

He seemed to learn pretty quick when Parkman tried his Jedi Mind Trick on him.

I'm starting to wonder if Peter not only absorbs peoples' abilities, but is able to wield them with more power.

 

Even saying that's true for argument's sake, when you ask someone a question, they generally actively think the answer.

 

That's unlikely. He's already more powerful by having more than one ability. If/when he can use more than one at a time, he will already be more powerful. Adding, on top of this, outclassing the original, would be simply unfair advantage.

 

^Sylar can use people's abilities better than they can because of his underlying ability to understand how things work. We saw this numerous times last season, including his ability to control Ted's radiation and the first power he stole, telekinesis.

Peter presumably has Sylar's ability to understand how things work, having been around Sylar. So he can hypothetically do things that the original power holder can't.

Peter has an inherent disadvantage: he's a naive dumbass.

 

So no one noticed that peter absorbed the virus ash?
Doesn't that mean he's a carrier now?

 

^Looking back at the scene on TiVo in slo-mo, it doesn't seem as though Peter absorbs the ash so much as it falls out of his hand. You can see some of the dust go over his sweater sleeve.

There is a moment where the "godsend" symbol is visible, but who knows if we're supposed to make something of that or not.

 

Then couldn't he hypothetically combine powers? If he has SylarVision(tm) eventually he should be able to use more than one at the same time.

 

The writers have to be careful or else they get the Neo effect.

The Neo Effect being where you have a character so powerful it becomes difficult to write an engaging and realistic storyline.

 

In other words, let him combine powers without amplification.

 

He can already combine powers, he did it in the future. He just hasn't figured out how to do it in the present yet.

 

And she had better fucking stay down too.

Thought it was pure brilliance. You could also tell that it seriously fucked Hiro up too. I'm completely fine with this being the end of Adam - it was easily one of the most "Oh fuck yeah" moments of the show.

Well, Heroes has always played kind of fast and loose with the timeline, especially when you start looking at cross-oceanic stuff like phone calls between Odessa, Texas and Odessa, Ukraine or, well, anything with Hiro, though that's always kind of hard to tell.

 

Pete's already using at least two powers at once. When Hiro attacked Adam, Pete wasn't frozen in time with everyone else, and he still called up the electro-shock from Elle.

 

I think that was just bad visual effects. It wasn't absorbed.

 

I don't think his not being frozen in time counts as it doesn't involve him actively doing anything.

 

I say it must mean exactly that. Hiro reacted with surprise when he saw Peter, so he didn't know Peter was there before freezing time and therefore had not willfully excluded him from the freeze. The only remaining explanation is that Peter somehow instinctively, even reflexively, protected himself from it. I believe he was simultaneously holding himself outside of normal time and using the power of Elle-ctricity.

 

There are at least two ways that this could work.

A) Peter inherently can't be frozen in time like the rest of everyone/thing else due to his "sponginess"

B) Peter consciously or unconsciously triggers something when Hiro freezes everything else to prevent himself from being frozen.

There's no conclusive proof one can offer based on what's been shown thus far.

Given the two times we've seen Peter and Hiro (or Future Hiro) together came as a surprise to Peter that he was moving, I lean toward the A explanation.

As an aside, I guess Caitlin's stuck in the alternate future that never came to be, huh?

 

Unfortunately, now that the future has been changed, that future, and her along with it, no longer exist.

Basic Back to the Future. Now, Peter could go back in time to just before his dumb ass sent them into the future in the first place and snag her, but then that might change Peter's past/the chronological future so that he does not in fact stop the virus from getting out.

Wacky, huh?

 

No, I don't think so. this is, in a sense, a classic parodox situation.


It seems to me that there is an "A" timestream in which Peter, never having learned of the virus, does not aid in it's release and in which Catlin has an unaltered existance.

Peter goes to the future, learns of the virus, and unwittingly causes that future to happen....now there's a B time stream

Then Hiro & Co intervene and restore the A time stream and in so doing restore Catlin to her original existence.

Conversely, if the Virus event WAS the "A" time stream, then odds are Catlin dies in that scenario regardless, given that it wipes out virtually everyone, so at worst, Peter caused no real damage to Catlin.

However, neither of these resolve the issue of the fact that he is still separated from her. Even if she does exist.


Time travel issues almost never have a clear resolution....but I don't think Peter caused her death. Whichever possibility is true.

Additionally, when the time line is altered so that there is no virus release, all those who were alive when Peter was there continue to be alive in the non-virus timestream, and those who died are also there, so in this case, too, Catlin should be alive there either way....all Peter has to do is be there where he lost her when his time stream catches up with her - it will be, to her, as if he had never left. In fact, if it's like most timestream alterations, she won't even remember that they found an almost wiped out population in the first place.

 

This makes the most sense to me. Peter always seems to experience time freezing before Hiro actually arrives, which makes me think that Peter just immune to the effects of time distortions the same way Hiro is.