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Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Talkahuano, Jul 6, 2012.

  1. Talkahuano

    Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

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    Because my insurance company has to prepare for the healthcare law, they have a HUGE backlog and every single one of their patients has at least a one or two day delay on getting new prescriptions approved. How great is that? :mad:

    And from what my pharmacist tells me, the delay is only going to get worse! :mad:

    So now I gotta plan all my appointments with enough time to have old prescriptions left over, or I'll be fucked. Woooonderful.
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  2. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    But hey, keep votin' for them demmycrats. :techman:
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  3. Ramen

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    Chickenbutt?
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  4. Talkahuano

    Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

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    Or for the Republicans who failed to stop the bill, or the Republicans who spent more time adding partisan bullshit to it rather than trying to fix it as much as possible.

    I blame all of Congress for this and I am not happy. :mad:
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  5. Talkahuano

    Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

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    I prefer chicken nuggets. :unsure:
  6. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    Actually, I'm not sure she does, at least not all the time. I think the young lady is leaning more libertarian all the time! (Let's just hope she never becomes a conservative Republican...)

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  7. Ramen

    Ramen Banned

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    But yeah, when you throw open the gates and let everyone into the fun park, the lines are going to be a lot longer. :shrug:
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  8. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    A good citizen would be happy to endure this sacrifice for the good of their fellow patriots.

    :commie: :commie: :commie:
    :commie: :hammer: :commie:
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    YOUR CAPS LOCK IS STUCK AND YOU CAN'T FIND THE QUESTION MARK?
  10. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    In the first sentence are the words 'insurance company'....

    ... I'd be blaming them :)
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  11. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    So, she was doing just fine with her private insurance until <government meddling xyz>, but despite that being the only change, you blame the insurance company? Yep, you're the target demographic for UHC, alright.

    :tbbs:
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  12. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    They are a business.
    If they are a well-run business they should have had measures in place to mitigate changes like this.
  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Because corporations are benevolent and only want what's best for their customers until the Evul Gubmint FORCES them to be evil, too.

    And if TKO is as poor as she claims to be, she has plenty of alternatives.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    In other words, when government regulations harm the economy, it's the fault of private industry that they weren't able to "mitigate" the difficulties.


    :jayzus:
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  15. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    So it's their fault for not being prepared in advance at their own expense for new, heavy-handed meddling from the government?
    :tbbs:

    Didn't say that, nor does that make anything I did say any less true.

    She didn't need alternatives. What she needed was for her health insurance to be LEFT THE FUCK ALONE.

    You can pretzel yourself up trying to rationalize it all you want, but you can't deny reality. This is an irrefutable bit of extra bullshit inflicted on someone because of Obamacare, and it's only the beginning.
  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    No. If you don't believe every insurer has a "We'll show them!" plan in place every time their special privileges are under threat, you're naive.
  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Then she and every other client of that particular insurer needs to take that up with the insurer.

    That's what you guys preach in every other instance. "If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere. Market Forces will rule."
  18. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Uhhh This particular case doesnt sound like 'government regulations harm the economy' although that might be happening. It sounds like 'business unprepared for changes that they knew were going to happen'
  19. Talkahuano

    Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

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    And it's not just my insurance company. My pharmacist said several companies are backlogged in the Birmingham area. The economy is seriously hurting here, companies can't afford to hire more people and now they have a ton of extra work to do.
  20. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I'm sure you meant to say "the government" instead of "insurer," there.

    Otherwise, you'd have to be suggesting that a private company should be expected to eat whatever hassle and expense is necessary to make it transparent to the customer when new regulations are imposed, and that's too stupid to contemplate.
  21. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    And your pharmaceuticals are manufactured in China or India. Yay, outsourcing!
  22. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    Do you think you're impressing someone by pretending there isn't an extra cost implied in all that? Or is it just fashionable to be dismissive with extra costs imposed on the private sector?
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  23. Talkahuano

    Talkahuano Second Flame Lieutenant

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    They're starting to prepare 2 years in advance (the law goes into effect in 2014), but the preparation is causing a backlog. Not much they can do about that :shrug:
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  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    And that can't possibly be because they're a big, bloated behemoth drowning in paperwork and inefficient procedures...
  25. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Corporate profits are the highest ever.

    Cut the Executives bonuses in half, and they'd be able to afford to hire hundreds of workers.

    But then, they wouldn't get filthy stinkin' rich, only stinkin rich.

    Fuck 'em.
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  26. We Are Borg

    We Are Borg Republican Democrat

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    TKO, the solution is so obvious.

    Move to Canada! :eh:

    I rarely get prescriptions, but when I do the eeeeeevil Canadian health care system springs into action.

    It's so slow and the system is so broken, it only takes about FIVE MINUTES for me to get the scrip and my insurance company covers the cost, other than a $2 deductible which I have to pay. (And the same deductible applies regardless of the cost of the drugs.)
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    It's going to be more fun.
    And more fun.
    And even more fun!
  28. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I just got forced on prescription by mail. They dropped half of the prescriptions I needed, and sent me the wrong dosage on another.
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  29. We Are Borg

    We Are Borg Republican Democrat

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    In fact, I even have a nice basement apartment that you could move into.

    It has a nice comfy bed and soundproofing and some handcuffs and a door that locks and IT PUTS THE LOTION IN THE BASKET!!!

    :unsure:

    Oh, dear. I've said too much...
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  30. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    And it's the same solution that always works for everything.

    Kill them all.
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