Hijacking Catastrophe

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  1. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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  2. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Why don't YOU back up your whackjob allegations, ya lying piece of shit?
  3. 14thDoctor

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    I agree, to an extent. Hindsight is always 20/20.

    However, after 9/11, it turned out there were files on most, if not all, of the hijackers. If there was a suspicion that an attack was imminent, people like that should have been under heightened supervision, or at the very least, their names should have at least been on a watch list, and five of them on the same flight should have raised a huge red flag.


    But like I already said, hindsight is 20/20.
  4. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Before 9/11, all the agencies responsible for putting such information together were all :thelurker:. Those that weren't, and this includes the airlines, were either :rolleyes:, :whoopdedoo:, or :what:
  5. 14thDoctor

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    Yeah, I know. It's unfortunate that it took thousands of deaths for the government to step in and tell them to grow up. You can pin that one on Clinton as well, but that doesn't mean Bush didn't drop the ball himself. :shrug:
  6. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Please... It goes back to Dulles and Hoover.
  7. 14thDoctor

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    Lincoln didn't seem to take threats too seriously either, as the back of his head will attest. :bergman:




    :unsure:

    Too soon?
  8. Bobcat

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    Ding, ding, ding! We have another winner for my ignore list!
  9. Bobcat

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    Unless you wanted the hijackings to occur. And we know now that the CIA briefed Rice and Ashcroft (although they lied about it and denyed it at first) about the threat in June 2001 and they did NOTHING. Repeat, the National Security Advisor did NOTHING. So was she simply incompetent or did she want the hijackings to occur? There are no other possible answers to that question.
  10. 14thDoctor

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    Incorrect.

    "Like the majority of Americans, she didn't take the threat seriously enough," is the explanation I happen to believe.
  11. Bobcat

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    She's a proven liar. You believe what a liar says?
  12. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Editted for accuracy.
  13. Speck

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    Well, noone can concretely prove Anything on the internet, but you can get people to discus it and think about it.

    Using your brain.
    A God Given right.
    Don't abandon it or give it away.
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  14. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Yeah, and bringing up a tinfoil hat subject that's been beaten to death back to life demonstrates that you are incapable of using yours.
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  15. 14thDoctor

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    It's extremely simplistic to assume that there are only "liars" or truthtellers."

    This is the real world, not a logic class. :bergman:

    Honestly, if you've got a case to make, do it. Start a thread. Present all your evidence. Provide all the links neccessary. Have rebuttals and additional links ready for when people try poking holes in your claims.


    Otherwise, you're no better than a crazy hobo, and I'll treat you as such.
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  16. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    :lol:


    Ted would have loved this thread. :cry:
  17. BearTM

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    He can't be dragged away from his rape porn forums, though.
  18. Bobcat

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/03/washington/03rivals.html?pagewanted=print
  19. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    Do you remember every meeting you take months or years later? Do you remember the specifics spoke of at every meeting?

    We underestimated AQ. It wasn't malice, it wasn't derelicition of duty, they sucker punched us because we thought they weren't able to do it. It happens. You learn the lesson and move on.
  20. 14thDoctor

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    Honestly, no.
    But if I had a job that important, I'd probably have someone taking notes for me. Just sayin'.
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  21. Caedus

    Caedus Fresh Meat Formerly Deceased Member

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    What exactly would you of had the Bush Administration do in response to this specific warning of a "looming threat" Boobcat? Institute a Patriot Actesque crackdown, the same type of crackdown that people like you bitched and moaned about after the adminstration instituted it post 9/11, across the country?