How screwed are we in November?

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by oldfella1962, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Okay...let's say the unthinkable happens in November. I think I've quantified things, like that "Pain Scale" they have now in the doctor's office. Enjoy!
  2. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    If the pundits are right about who's got a shot at being elected, blue, and that's the best case scenario.
  3. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Screwed unless McCain gets in.

    Then you'll only be slightly screwed.
  4. rightfulownership

    rightfulownership Fresh Meat

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    i'm a fan of the lesser evil this year :shrug:
  5. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    We're humped no matter who gets in.

    I, for one, am sick and tired of having to vote for the lesser of two evils. I want someone I can really back and feel good about voting for.
  6. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    We're screwed like a tied up goat.
  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    If I have to listen to 4 years of Kirk1assm pissing his pants, and mewling, and sniveling about Hillary, I'm probably gonna snap, and have to skeletonize him with a set of vegetable decorating knives.
  8. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    That ship has sailed.
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  9. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    Why does everyone go on about how great Reagan was?

    Until he came to office we only had a national debt of about 1 trillion, and when he left it was up to 2.5 trillion.

    He was the gipper, as in he gipped this country.
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  10. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Remember that certain something that you couldn't quite put your finger on about Obama?

    Reagan had it. We can start with that. :yes:
  11. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Yellow if we have a conservative congress no latter than 2010, Blue otherwise.
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  12. Captain J

    Captain J 16" Gunner

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    It's called winning the Cold War. He used our economic might to bankrupt the Soviets and force an end to their empire. Worked pretty well too.
  13. Caboose

    Caboose ....

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    :wtf:

    May want to study your history a bit there champ.
    If that's the only yardstick you want to measure that man with, then you truly are hopeless as a political pundit.
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  14. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Because congress controlled the purse strings. The Reagan (actually Kemp/Roth) tax cuts flooded the capital with revenue and the Dem congress went stone blind crazy spending it...and Reagan had to trade that off for the necessary funds to rebuild the defense capabilities that the Dems in the 70's had tried so hard to destroy.

    In just the same way that Clinton gets credit for a balanced budget when, in reality, the GOP congress shoved it down his throat, likewise Reagan get's blamed for deficit spending that the Dem Congress forced on him as a pay-off for giving him the defense spending he wanted.

    Plus, by the way, debt growth is exponential so if you are not actively reducing it, the compounding effect kicks your ass eventually.

    Reagan took over a nation with an economy headed for the cliff, a defense infrastructure in utter shambles, and a trillion dollar deficit, and fixed two of the three problems in extraordinary fashion.

    No one short of God himself could have fixed all three with a hostile Congress.
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  15. Powaqqatsi

    Powaqqatsi Haters gonna hate.

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    Your only hope is to adjust what makes you feel good.
  16. Caboose

    Caboose ....

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    :unsure: A longer stroke on his fucking machine maybe?
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  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    What Reagan had was a staunch belief that Barnum was right. And, man, you guys are still under his spell. :jayzus:
  18. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I hope he gets hit on the head with a frying pan and turns into a Republican.
    He'd get the biggest share of the popular vote in history IMO.
    He does seem to be a good leader.

    Maybe he secretly wants Hillary to be elected, and that her tenure will be a disaster. Then he switches parties to become the anti-Hillary in 2012.

    I need to e-mail him about this idea. :cool:
  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    *sigh* :jayzus:
  20. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Ronaldus Maximus speaks to CPAC - March 1, 1975 (excerpted for leangth)

    And so it shall be in November, John.
    As it was in 2006.
    As will McCain, whatever lies he tells at CPAC tomorrow.
    Probably not as true overall now as it was then, but still there's a lot of rank and file Dems who wouldn't support their leadership if they were really paying attention to what they stood for.

    Still the king baby, still the king.

    [​IMG]
  21. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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  22. Powaqqatsi

    Powaqqatsi Haters gonna hate.

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    Yeah he's dead though.
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  23. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Excuse me if I'm not weeping that the man who believes in nothing can't grasp or understand the praise of a man of vision.

    Show me the man who puts forth a vision YOU believe in so we can compare notes....or forgive me if I disregard your criticism.
  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Quite the contrary.

    I'm saying the cult of the strong man is subservient, and weak, and an insult to the self, and it's the self one should rely on, not surrogating one's ego over to hero worship.

    That way lies masochism, which inevitably encourages sadism, and that way lies slavery.
  25. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    :rofl: x infinity.
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  26. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    So that's why your sex life is so bor....oh...wait. :blush:

    You know I don't make cracks about your sex life, but...come on man. That one's slow and right over the plate. :(
  27. Beck

    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    No. You'll still be wholly screwed by a liberal...just in conservative drag.
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  28. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Go kneel to your cosmic dictator, and then preach of freedom.
    :nyer:
  29. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Such bitterness. You guys have had damn near eight years, and you couldn't get it right.
  30. Beck

    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    We couldn't get it right because the GOP is not a conservative party anymore, and frankly neither is Bush on anything that counts.
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