I gotta strange feeling that.....

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  1. Lt. Mewa

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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Alternatively, refusing to play the game often results in a more heightened awareness.
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    No, I take that back. At one HS I attended, I was the only black student. And sometimes I would be subject to or in close proximity to humorous but racially sensitive jokes or other crazy antics. Sometimes I would speak up and sometimes I would leave. And sometimes I would act like I didn't hear it or was not aware. It kinda sucked but I would be with friends but others might pull that shit. ya know, a party or just hanging in someone's basement.

    But the truth was that they actually wanted me to laugh along with it. Join in like it was harmless. Some white guys would get drunk and think it was fun to fuck with the black guy. So I can see a person getting 'caught out there.'
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    I've been fortunate in that regard in that I didn't have such a thing happen to me, however, I can still recognize it happens and that young people are especially prone to such thinking.
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  6. Lt. Mewa

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    I'm gonna be Archie Bunker next year. Whiteface baby!!! :ramen:
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    The flip side is that some people seem to look for chances to offend. (The group that irritates me more tends to be whichever one has my attention at the moment.)
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    Go for it! But since none of my grandparents were news-worthy, your costume wouldn't make sense, and nobody would understand what you are trying to convey. Do you see the difference?
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    Actually, its you that don't get it. Let's say your beloved Grandpa died in an accident involving a nailgun shooting like 10 nails into his skull. Then I show up at the Halloween party that you are attending with your whole family, dressed as your dead Grandpa with 10 nails in my head. I'm pretty sure you and your family wouldn't like it. They would find it very offensive. You get it now?

    Oh wait...you got a kooky family so I could be wrong. :shrug:

    But think about it.
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    The vegitarian animal rights advocates are the worst on that topic. They literally look for chances to offend because they think any coverage is good coverage even if its just them getting arrested for being dumb asses.
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Wait. Are you really equating the death of someone's grandparents to the death of someone you never met, were never going to meet, and the only thing you two had in common was that you happened to have the same skin color?

    Physician, heal thyself.
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  12. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Get over yourself, funny is funny. Anything can be made of fun, people will always be offended by something.

    You personally knew and loved Trayvon Martin? Did he ever make jokes about non-blacks?
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    Damn, that guy in the hoodie needs a good beatdown. Anybody that stupid needs his marbles rearranged and hope for deliverence from the stupidity they suffer from.

    :jayzus:
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    Looks like someone is looking to get their ass kicked... :garamet:

    I can appreciate a dark sense of humor, but this is just plain stupidity.
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    People don't seem to get the analogy I made. I don't have to know Trayvon to find the Halloween get up offensive. Some folks need an example that hits close to home to make them understand. Trayvon had friends and family. I feel for them. Its called empathy.

    I don't know the grandparent but I say fuck-em, Just like the people who think...Trayvon costume, good idea, fuck 'im. :jayzus:
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    Back in the 90's I thought the best Halloween costume was to dress up as Superman, but be in a wheelchair with a respirator. Tasteless, possibly. Funny as hell, you bet!

    Some people are too fucking uptight and overly sensitive. So feel free to get all offended and self-righteous while I put on my Blu-Ray of Blazing Saddles and laugh my ass off.
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    So you KNEW Trayvon Martin? I never got a chance to sign the WordForge sympathy card.
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    We don’t have the same history with racism over here, although we do have our own demons with religious sectarianism etc. Anyway, honest question, not trolling, is the black face thing a big deal on a Halloween get up? I saw someone dressed as Django at a party at the weekend and have previously saw BA costumes. Is it a problem? I’ve never done it myself but I’ve never looked and been offended. I’ve never noticed anyone else be offended by it either. But maybe that’s more to do with the area and our history over here.


    I think the above costumes however are completely different from dressing as Trayvon which IMO is completely unacceptable.
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    Was it a white dude dressed as Django?
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    The only acceptable blackface on a white person is if they are dressed up to be Othello. :garamet:
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    Yep, white guy, black make up.

    So is it wrong?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I've seen black dudes dressed as Superman.

    If it's a fictional character, it's one thing. Where it crosses the line is when it's a real person. For instance, would BD wear his costume if he were invited to a party where the Reeves' son was a guest? I'd like to say "probably not," but this is BD we're talking about.
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    Hmmm, movie character from a period piece. Let me call the Brothers and check on that. :mewa2:
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    Stallion, are there ANY black folks in your area? Cuz in America where there are no black folks for miles some white folks get a little stupid on Halloween.

    The Trayvon get-up would be a clear death wish in NYC.
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    Course there is, but not to the same extent as you guys are used to.

    Is there a difference between random white guy dressing as Django or Mr T at a party, and Downie Jnr playing his role in Tropic Thunder?
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    I was at a halloween party a few years ago when a white dude came dressed as a lawn jockey. At first I was like, "What balls!", but then again, he wasn't dressing up as a person, or even a character...just an ornament for the first part.
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    Lets be clear...its the racist depictions that are a problem. What Stallion mentions seems harmless. The Tropic Thunder thing was a pure spoof. I loved it.

    In America, a white person doing the blackface thing is just plain stupid. Too much history with that. The minstrel days are long gone.
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  28. Stallion

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    I should note Mewa that I completely agree with your stance on the Trayvon get up. My responses were more relating to your post saying white people want a black face on their bucket list.
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    Was he a white lawn jockey or a black lawn jockey?
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    Really wish I had @evenflow 's pic from Hallowen when he was in college and he and a friend went as Vincent and Jules from Pulp fiction. :ramen: One of them was in black face, but I can't remember which one. :unsure: