I Hate PitBulls!!!!!

As I said, just like politicians.

Vandy's statements go far beyond dislike, and thus the question isn't relateable to my statement. If you asked, "So, wishing the destruction of an entire breed because you perceive it to be dangerous and unappealing is the same thing as being racist?" Then my answer would be, yes, absolutely.

People overcomplicate all issues, and assume differences between man and animals that there seems to be this border when considering their rights versus ours. If people systematically wipe out entire species of animals, it is not considered anywhere near as vile or unconscionable as systematically killing off a race of people.

Examine this statement:

I am for the systematic removal and destruction of the APBT in our nation. They are inherently violent and unruly causing a threat to the well being of our society. Removing APBT from our nation would make it a safer place to live in.

You consider that a personal opinion, an exaggeration of the one Vandy expressed, and no where near as harmful as racism.

Take the same statement, replace APBT with African Americans, now it reads like this:

I am for the systematic removal and destruction of African Americans in our nation. They are inherently violent and unruly causing a threat to the well being of our society. Removing African Americans from our nation would make it a safer place to live in.

Surely that is a clear cut and dry statement straight from the mouth of a racist pig, likely associated with the KKK or the Neo-Nazi movement (or both )!

I know that may be a stretch, but it was the best way to present my opinion and IMO that sort of discrimination against a large group based on a handful is equivelant to racism.

Show me this study and I'll believe it.
Besides, you wouldn't want them to do this study on humans, probably find out something you wouldn't like.

You ever been around purebreds? Pointers point without any training. Same goes for shepherds. Our Shelties always like us all to be together, and if we're all together playing, they'll run circles around his flock and and if one tries to leave the group they'll snap at your heels until you get back. It is really amazing to watch.

Yeah, some training helps make them experts but it is crazy what they'll do all on their own.

Same goes for vicious fighting breeds.

Yep. I never had to teach a chihuahua how to bury itself under a smelly blanket on the couch.

Remarkable!!

The haunting beauty of the chihuahua!

So if I were to say, "I don't allow Cocker Spaniels in my home because they smell bad". It's just equal to me saying the same about Mexicans?

Yes, in my eyes. If I were to equate, I would say that is what one might call an acceptable (or invisible) form or racism. Some folks just call them biaseds. In this scenario, you address the problem reasonably. You aren't punishing the Cocker Spaniels because you think they smell, you are just avoiding them. Same goes for if you didn't allow Mexicans in your house.

If anyone here can say that they don't think things of people or have even the slightest of preconceived notions then they are a better person than I am. I don't hate people for the differences between us, but I may lean away from putting myself in situations that would require me to be around people that I have pre-existing opinions of.

Back to how this can be applied to Vandy- she thinks and feels that by nature alone that pit bull wants to rip her throat out. She is convinced, but has no evidence that the dog has caused bodily harm to anyone. If she feels so threatened she can avoid the situation completely, by crossing the street! My stars, what a concept.

I realize I could just be leading myself either into a wall here or opening a can of worms the size of Jupiter, but I am not unwilling to state my opinions on racism.

BULLSHIT!!!

She should not have to run across the street or do anything else to avoid someone's big, uncontrolled dog. She should be perfectly safe walking right past that owner's house with a fucking pork chop in her back pocket. There is no reasonable amount of accommodation to be asked of her in this subject, because that fucking dog is not her responsibility. Unless she ventures onto that dog owner's property, she shouldn't have to do a single fucking thing in order to reasonably expect not to be mault or harassed by the animal.

Locust are you a vegetarian?

I feel the same way about children.

Eh. I was going to add something to this thread, but I'll give it its own. RIP, George.

What difference would that make? Going to try and refute my beliefs about a dog because I eat cows?

Then it is the owner's fault, not the dogs. I've not been defending the owner at all here, just the dog, so I really don't see why you are getting so worked up. Of course the owner is a dumb shit, which in turn gives the dog a bad name.

You said she should change her route to avoid the dog. You are wrong.

And whether the problem is the dog or the owner is nobody else's problem. The issue at hand remains the same no matter what the correct remedy turns out to be or who is to blame: an uncontrolled dog harassing joggers. The fix should deal with the dog, the owner, or both, not the jogger.

That only holds true until she has done everything else to remedy the problem, if she has gone through all the proper channels to try and get the problem solved and nothing has happened then she needs to put herself away from the situation until something is done. If she takes the law into her own hands and clubs the dog then she loses. I'd say carry pepper spray, I imagine it works just as well on mutts as people. Don't go giving me crap for suggesting that either, if it is as bad a part of town as she says it is she already should be carrying some. Cautious, not stupid.

Nope, you just sound like one of those " Animals are people, too!" types.
I only think that if they are cute, otherwise I feel free to eat them.

Hell no, I love a nice cut of meat barely cooked. I am only defending the pitbull so vicisously because everyone gives them a bad rap when everyone I've met has been very loveable.

As my veterinarian said, it's not a matter of if, but when.

So I'm supposed to go on the word of your vet and believe that all pitbulls will one day snap and maul their owners?
Any animal can snap at any time. The only reason it is more dangerous when a pitbull snaps than when a toydog does is the size difference.

You pretty much nailed it.

Damn. Well make the most of whatever time you have left.

And muscular/skeletal proportioning, and jaw strength, and centuries' worth of selective breeding for certain traits.

The APBT and it's cousin breeds are not nearly as old as you think. Also, those certain traits they were bred for did not include people aggression or guard dog behavior. A pit bull from a responsible breeder is as safe as any other powerful dog. Up until the last 20 yrs or so, pits were extremely popular family pets in America. Let us not forget the Little Rascals.

Well Kujo was out again today. Unleashed. Again. Luckily I was in a car this time.
I don't even know why they have that thing, are they worried someone is trying to steal the trash from their front yard??? Which BTW is getting worse.

All "powerful dogs" should be under strict control at all times.

Tsk, fuck 'em, they are meth heads.

You know, they used to say that about Dobermans too. I haven't seen a hue and cry to exterminate that breed.
In fact, they have bred them into a smaller "cuter" breed.